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"content": " Let him finish, Mr. Kiuna."
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"content": "Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, now that I have tabled the Ministry’s response which is here, where they are saying that they actually committed Kshs20,000 to the family members, however, I do not have the machinery to know whether that Kshs20,000 actually went to the intended purpose. I would not know. But if there is any case that he wants me to further check, who in particular received the Kshs20,000, then I could go back to the Ministry of Education and not security. I had already finished with the security. I will go to the Ministry of Education to ascertain who in particular got the Kshs20,000. Otherwise, this is the letter which acts as evidence on the part of the Government that we had actually paid the money."
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"content": "Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, since the Assistant Minister has categorically denied that this Question does not refer directly to his Ministry, would I be in order to request the Chair, either to defer this Question for them to go and consult with his counterpart or alternatively he refrains from answering it, so that it is direct to the right Ministry?"
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"content": " Mr. Kiuna, are you saying the Assistant Minister has requested to go and have a joint meeting with the Minister for Education or are you the one requesting for it? I believe the Assistant Minister is answering on behalf of the Government."
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"content": "Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, I was asking for your indulgence to make a ruling."
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"content": "Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, the Assistant Minister is very categorical that on the issue of security, he has handled well. However, he is not sure about the information that he has been given by the Ministry of Education. I would request your indulgence to allow the Ministry of Education because this matter is seriously disputed. I am speaking based on facts, so that they could come here and clarify and substantiate and tell all and sundry that these are the persons who collected the money. This is what has been done, so that the details are tabled here because the Ministry of Education is the one which is better positioned to answer this Question to that extent."
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"content": "Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, this is an emotive issue for the families of the deceased who might be watching these live proceedings today. Those officers lost their lives while on duty serving this nation. The least you can do to them is give accurate information and also honour them by ensuring that their families are well taken care of. Could the Question be referred to the Ministry of Education so that it can be answered effectively? That way, the families will know that we are doing the right thing. If you cannot get justice on the Floor of this House, I do not know where else you can get justice in this Republic."
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"content": " Hon. Members, in view of the information that we have received, I order that the Assistant Minister, who is talking on behalf of the Government, consults and this Question comes back on the Order Paper next week on Wednesday. Consult and come with a comprehensive answer that will address both the security as well as the concerns on education."
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"content": " Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, I will consult with the Ministry of Education to give us the names of those who received the money which they purport to have given out. I will do that."
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