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"content": "Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I am suggesting that we go by the procedures. Let PC Kioko, through my friend, hon. Kiilu, be advised to appeal through the presiding officers all the way up to the Commissioner. There is a number of disciplinary cases which are still waiting. I would---"
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"content": "On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. Going by the answers that the Assistant Minister is trying to give, it is evident that there is a problem here. Would I be in order to request that this matter be referred to the relevant parliamentary Committee to address this issue exhaustively, because it appears that he is not ready to give the proper answers?"
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"content": "On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. Is the Assistant Minister in order to mislead this House by asking the Questioner to ask Kioko to appeal afresh when the previous appeals--- For example, there is a case in my constituency of a certain Nerima who appealed to the Assistant Minister. He even brought a recommendation from the Attorney-General that he be taken back to the force, but up to today – one year after the Assistant Minister committed himself on this Floor that he would reinstate him in his job – nothing has been done. So, of what use are these appeals?"
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"content": "Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the primary reason for an appeal is for your case to be heard. That is the reason why you must appeal. There is a committee that deals with those who are having disciplinary cases. It is that committee which decides that an appeal has merit, and reinstates applicants to their positions. It may also find that an appeal has no merit, and so an applicant cannot be reinstated to his position."
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"content": "Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I am suggesting, just as hon. ole Lankas has also suggested, that we take this matter to the relevant Departmental Committee; I have no objection to that; we want to know the details of it."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir."
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"content": "Assistant Minister, clearly there is an issue here that needs to be resolved, and it can only be resolved if you and the hon. Member of Parliament work together. The hon. Member maintains that this appeal was lodged as far back as February of last year, and was lodged through the right procedure. It was handed over to the OCS and went through the internal system all the way to the Commissioner. You need to get together to find out where the disconnect was, or where the gap is, and rectify the matter. Referring this to a committee is essentially not the right thing to do. This is a simple matter; it is not a matter of policy, it is not a matter of principle; it is not a very wide matter. It concerns one officer; I believe with a lot of sincerity and Utumishi KwaWote, or service to all, you can sit in your office with the hon. Member and find out exactly what happened. I would---"
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"content": "Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I will go with the decision. The hon. Member can come and take tea with me in the office, and then we agree on the way forward; this can be next week or the week after."
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"content": "In the meantime the Chair wants to defer this Question to another date. The Chair defers this Question to next week, Wednesday morning; it is the prayer and expectation of the Chair that the matter will have been sorted out in order to help this poor Kenyan, who clearly feels aggrieved."
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