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"content": "The Question was, first of all, directed to the Ministry of Lands. However, because of part “b”, it was again redirected to the Ministry of Forestry and Wildlife. That was at the beginning of November. I was even able to write a letter to the PS to tell him what he should do in respect of the last part. But I can see the Minister has not been properly briefed."
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"content": "This has taken so long from 1991/1992. These people are now being treated like squatters on the other side of Shaviringa. Being a caring Minister, especially for people from those areas, how long will this take? I believe the last portion really lies in your hands. It is a matter of co-ordinating between your Ministry, Ministry of Lands, and the Ministry of State for Provincial Administration and Internal Security. If you can give that undertaking, I am sure the people of Vihiga who went to Shaviringa will be happy."
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"content": "Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, my colleague is quite right. What needs to be done in this matter, so that our people have title deeds is for my Ministry to liaise with the Ministry of Lands in view of the Forests Act of 2005, so that we can initiate the degazettement of these 134 hectares. The Forests Act of 2005 makes it mandatory for authority of this House to be sought in case of degazettement of forest land."
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"content": "Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, I will liaise with my colleague to make sure that the process is initiated from the ground to be able to reach this Parliament, so that people in this piece of land could actually get their title deeds."
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"content": "31 Wednesday, 14th December, 2011(A)"
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"content": "Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, I would like to know from the Minister the exact procedure of degazettement."
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"content": "I guess he is aware of the situation in Chepalungu where the Prime Minister went and initiated a district headquarters, but within a forest land. Some works have started, but somewhere along the way, that project has stalled, and yet the people want the district headquarters. So, what is the position?"
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"content": "Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, I am quite aware of the issue in Chepalungu. We have many of these issues. The Member has put it rightly by seeking to know the procedure. The procedure is that the affected communities on the ground must approach the Community Forest Association (CFA) in the area to write to me saying that they want to degazette a piece of land on which the school is standing, or in this case, as the matter in Shaviringa has been stated here. I will then forward the request to the Kenya Forest Board (KFB), who would then recommend degazettement. I will then table that recommendation of the Board here for us to debate it. It is the Members of Parliament who will then give an okay. That is exactly what the Forests Act of 2005 says."
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"content": "Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, as I said, it has actually taken more than 20 years. I am imagining that since we are likely to be going on Recess, would the Minister assure us that immediately we come back, he will be able to table those recommendations, so that we sort out this matter once and for all?"
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"content": "Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, I have always worked very well with the hon. Member. I have been to his constituency several times. We have done projects there. I can assure the House that I will see the Minister for Lands. I will also request the participation of the Member to initiate the discussion with the CFA on the ground. I have no doubt that in February or March, when we start the new Session, we will be able to debate the matter here."
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