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"speaker_name": "Mr. Kamama",
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"content": "Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, when we expect the same judges who have been there for 30 years to vet themselves or to be in charge of the judiciary, I do not think we are going anywhere. I will support it maybe if it is brought as a Government business. However, in my heart, we need a clean judiciary system. We do not want people who have been there for many years. You live in a house for many ages and think you will change anything. You cannot change anything. We need a new dispensation. We need Kenyans to see this in words and deed."
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