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"speaker_name": "Ms. Karua",
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"content": " Mr. Speaker, Sir, I rise to seek your clarification. When an hon. Member stands and makes a categorical statement--- I am not contesting your ruling. Indeed, what you have said is correct; that hon. Members must have a Substantive Motion in order to mention the names of other hon. Members adversely. If an hon. Member stands and makes a categorical statement about another hon. Member on a matter that could amount to an infringement of the working of the House, is it a matter that ought to be referred to the Committee of Powers and Privileges? How can we deal with a matter like that so that tomorrow an hon. Member does not stand and make a categorical assertion which then we believe - because I must say I was in the House - and then withdraw after dropping the bombshell?"
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