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    "speaker_name": "Hon. (Eng.) Gumbo",
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    "content": "Thank you, hon. Deputy Speaker. As engineers, we always say that you cannot fix it unless you can measure it. I have looked at the definition of “disadvantaged group” but as we go into the main Bill which is coming, while I do not intend to anticipate debate, let us find a way of identifying disadvantaged groups without perception because perception as you know is subjective. I am also happy that hon. (Dr.) Shaban brought in the issue of black economic empowerment programme. I witnessed The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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