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"content": " Thank you, Sen. (Dr.) Boni. I now direct the resumption of debate on the Bill by Sen. Joyce Korir. Sen. (Prof.) Margaret Kamar, proceed."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, for giving me the opportunity to support this Bill by Sen. Joyce Korir. May I begin by congratulating Sen. Joyce Korir for a well-articulated Bill whose time has come. This Bill is very important because our children have lost their reading culture to the extent that students go to university, but their language is completely discouraging. They do not seem to have the proper grammar that is required of them and the proper way of expressing things. A library will give them an opportunity to read books, which have been well articulated. That will help them improve. We need our children to go back to a reading culture. It is very sad that at the moment, most children are reading from phones. Reading from a telephone is not like The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only.A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and Audio Services,Senate."
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"content": "reading a storybook the way we read from books because of the distractions that come with using telephones like social media and all sorts of things that interrupt. Therefore, having a library is something very important. As I support this Bill, I want to make a few comments and additions that I wish the Senator can add as we congratulate her. One is that one of the objects of this Bill is to establish libraries in each county. There is a need to encourage libraries to be situated in every ward. I want to persuade her to re-word there so that it reads, “Establishing libraries in each county with at least one library at the ward level.” This is because it is easy to make a library free access, but if you have to pay to travel from the farthest corner of Uasin Gishu County to Eldoret to the library, nobody will come and yet we want to encourage everybody to know the use of a library to research and read materials. Therefore, I encourage establishing libraries in each county with the aim of establishing at least one in a ward. That will improve the reading culture. The other thing that I like, which one Senator has talked about, is that this will be an area where we will be able to preserve our cultural heritage. I would also like an amendment on this to bring in that we are not only going to preserve, but develop our cultural heritage. This is to ensure that the research part of it will help us develop more. Currently, our culture has been distorted completely because we were destroyed during colonialism. We were made to believe that our cultures were a disaster and witchcraft. We were told that it was backwardness. Therefore, we need to redevelop and reconstruct the cultures that we have. We may go beyond preserving and develop our cultural heritage. Thank God that in our high schools, we have the music festivals. It has brought back the indigenous songs, rhymes and way of dressing, something that we have lost completely. We need to bring those ones back. There is one aspect that this development should also address. I suggest that we need to develop our languages. Apart from developing the cultural heritage, we also need to develop our languages. There was a time when the Minister of Basic Education said that children should learn English, Kiswahili and mother tongue. That could not be implemented because nobody knew how to teach mother tounge, including the teachers. So, we need to redevelop our languages. If anything, we should have dictionaries that move our languages to either English or Kiswahili so that we are able to build them. It is a heritage that we cannot afford to lose. We cannot afford to lose the different dialects that we have in this country. The library that will be researching on our cultures and heritage should also research on the different languages and dialects that we have in this country. They should build not only storybooks because they will need to research on the stories that were told during our days, but develop dictionaries that can give us the meanings of most of the words. Our languages were very rich. They were not only straightforward statements being made, but were sayings and proverbs. All of them are being lost. Only documentation and this kind of libraries that Sen. Korir is promoting can bring this back anything that was destroyed. I say this because I sit in the Pan African Parliament (PAP) and this year is the African year for culture and reparations from the colonialists."
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"content": "On a point of order, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only.A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and Audio Services,Senate."
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"content": " Sen. Kinyua, what is your point of order?"
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"content": "Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I am cornered. I am reading this Bill, but what I am gathering from the good professor is, are we talking about library or museum? She is talking about culture, heritage and languages. I have listened to her keenly and I am following closely because she is a professor and we are in the same Standing Committee on Education. What is the need of ICT in every ward? With ICT, I can read every document. However, museums have old encyclopedia, which are not updated if that is the situation. I do not understand why we are talking about our heritage and culture when talking about library. I thought we can deal with this matter with the new technology."
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"content": " Very well, Sen. Kinyua. You have made your point. The good professor, Sen. (Prof.) Kamar, has made a proposal to have a library at the ward level, which will enhance the capacity and the ability to preserve these cultures and heritage. If I understood her very well, which I did because I am following the same, is the fact that having these libraries at the lowest level will enhance the capacity and the ability to preserve these cultures and heritage. Sen. (Prof.) Kamar, you have heard the point of order by the Senator. As you conclude on your contribution, you could also make it to fit in the Bill that we are debating."
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"content": "Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I want to refer Sen. Kinyua to Clause 3(d) which seeks to ensure preservation of cultural heritage of the counties for future generations. Yesterday we debated about having our museums at that level at the same time. Museums will gather information that already exists. Therefore, it is important to have the interlock. I liked the way Sen. Korir brought in the same issue of preservation of culture, not only in terms of preservation of what is there. That is why I proposed that we should move from the aspect of “preserve” to “develop” because a library can do research and inquiries, something that museums do not. Museums show you what is there. What is it that they are going to show in a country whose culture was torn apart during the colonial days? Who is going to bring that information together? Libraries can do more work than museums. Museums have artefacts. However, we need to reconstruct some of our artefacts and cultures because they have been distorted. I am referring to Clause 3(d) which talks about preservation of cultural heritage. All I am requesting is to expand it. Who is going to help us have a dictionary? Will museums do that? The answer is no. Museums can only give us, for example, Kalenjin books of the past and not the present. This Bill is progressive because it seeks to find how to get some. Apart from preservation, let us also use the libraries to develop, gather information and rebuild our cultural heritage. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, with those remarks, I support this Bill."
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