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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I wish to make comments on the Statement by the Senator for Kakamega County, Sen. (Dr.) Boni Khalwale. Indeed, I have seen this letter about the former NHIF staff, who were going to be deployed to various agencies in Government. As a Committee and as a House, when we crafted the laws that enabled the roll out of SHA and Social Health Insurance Fund (SHIF), we made it clear in our recommendation that no staff working under NHIF should lose their jobs. The uncertainty that is arising from the issuance of these letters is for the fact that the staff do not know exactly where they are being redeployed to and the terms of engagement. Mr. Speaker, Sir, as the Chairperson of the Standing Committee on Health, my concern is that SHA is redeploying what they call the excess staff. However, the new agencies that we created to support the roll out of UHC, such as the digital agency, is recruiting. The MoH should first consider redeploying these officers within the Ministry, where there is shortage of staffing instead of recruiting new staff. The staff that worked under NHIF were more than 2,000. Therefore, there is a pool of experienced staff that the agencies within the health sector can draw from instead of recruiting. I, therefore, agree with the sentiments of Sen. (Dr.) Boni Khalwale that there is need for the Ministry and SHA to clearly communicate in a manner that is not going to cause anxiety, but guarantee the workers that they are going to continue earning. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "We hope that as they do the deployments, their benefits in terms of remuneration and allowances that have already been conferred to the staff will not be lost or reduced because that is a right under the Employment Act and the International Labor Organization (ILO) requirements. I support and second this Statement."
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"content": " Sen. Sifuna, proceed."
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"content": "Asante Bw. Spika. Nilikuwa nimewaahidi wakenya kwamba leo tutazungumza kwa Kiswahili, maanake nilitarajia kwamba Mswada wangu wa kuzungumzia maswala ya vile ambavyo wakenya walidhalilishwa kule Tanzania utakuwepo leo. Hata hivyo, wacha nizungumzie Taarifa hii ambayo imeletwa na Sen. (Dr.) Boni Khalwale. Nawasikia wenzangu wakizungumza na kujipiga kifua kwamba SHA inafanya kazi. Kwa mtazamo wangu, kama hiyo SHA inafanya ni wananchi watatuambia, sio nyinyi viongozi kwa sababu hapa hamna mtu yeyote ambaye anapokea matibabu akitumia SHA. Kwa hivyo, ukisimama hapa na useme kwamba SHA inafanya kazi, tuoneyeshe ni lini ulitibiwa na SHA. Jambo la pili, wakati tulipokuwa tunazungmzia huu Mswada, tulisema kwamba tungependa kuwapa nafasi wale ambao walikuwa wanafanya kazi katika Shirika la NHIF ili wasifurushwe kazini. Mimi mwenyewe kama Seneta wa gatuzi la Nairobi, nilileta mabadiliko katika Mswada ule unaosema kwamba wale ambao wako pale, wapewe nafasi za kwanza kufanya mahojiano tena. Lakini, hawa hawa viongozi ambao sasa wanajipiga kifua wakisema tuwalinde wale wafanyakazi, walipiga kura kuhakikisha kwamba mabadiliko hayo hayakufaulu. Ni unafiki mkubwa ninapo wasikia watu ambao walikuwa na fursa ya kuhakikisha kwamba wafanyakazi hawa watapata haki wakipiga kura njia nyingine, kisha leo wanapata sauti na kutuambia kwamba SHA inafanya kazi. Bw. Spika, nina watu pale ndani ya Shirika la SHA wanaoniambia kwamba hata hizi interviews wanazofanya za kuwapa watu kazi, ni za bandia, maanake tayari wale ambao wanaenda kupewa hizi nafasi wanajulikana---"
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"content": " Seneta wa Nairobi, tafadhali, ukichagua lugha moja, itumie hiyo lugha, usichanganye lugha."
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"content": "Bw. Spika, nilikuwa nimetohoa lakini nimekosolewa na Mhe. Mwaruma, niuwie radhi. Nilikuwa nasema kwamba hayo mahojiano yanayofanyika ni mahojiano bandia. Wale wa kupewa barua tayari wanajulikana. Jambo la kutamausha zaidi ni kwamba, hata hawa ambao wamechaguliwa juzi kama directors walikuwa kwenye tume ya maadili ya kupambana na ufisadi. Sasa hivi, nitaleta hoja hapa ya ushahidi kwamba wale ambao wamepewa hizi nafasi tayari walikuwa na tuhuma za ufisadi na Shirika la Ethics and Anti-CorruptionCommission (EACC) ambalo lilikuwa limetangaza ya kwamba wanafaa waende kujibu mashtaka ya ufisadi mahakamani. Itakuwaje tena leo wamekuwa wasafi wanapewa nafasi katika shirika la SHA? Naomba hawa maseneta wenzangu, iwapo huna habari kamili, usije ukasema mambo ya uwongo ambayo huyaelewi---"
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"content": " Sen. Olekina, proceed. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I rise to support the Statement by the distinguished Senator from Kakamega County. It is imperative that we clarify this matter. The issue of uncertainty when you are an employee is not the best. I am sure most of us have gone through that process before the announcement of results is done by the Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission (IEBC). I call upon NHIF or SHA to make a determination of how many of the NHIF employees are going to be absorbed permanently. I know there are those who have requested to be transferred to other Government departments, it will be important to be clear. As a Member of the Standing Committee on Health, I assure the employees that this is a matter that is not only dealt by the Standing Committee on Labour and Social Welfare, but also the Standing Committee on Health. There are certain things that must be clear. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I hope that when the Standing Committees on Health and Labour and Social Protection will be looking at it, they will look at the terms of engagements. How different are they compared to the previous NHIF engagement? It is important also that right now, when we are all starved of resources, SHA looks into a process that will avoid serious legal battles. These people are uncertain, they do not know about their tomorrow. They were employed on a permanent basis in NHIF. Now, when transitioning into the new entity, SHA, they must also be based on the same terms. It is, therefore, imperative that we look at that to end the uncertainty. I know there was a meeting between the Cabinet Secretary for Health, who attempted to clarify the matter that all those employees will be absorbed. I know the new Chief Executive Officer (CEO) is about to come on board, perhaps next week, and would like to call upon the Social Health Authority (SHA), that this will be the first thing that he will do. I have a lot of confidence in the Chairperson of SHA, Dr. Ali. I know that when they work together, they will see that we end this bickering and uncertainty. Thank you."
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"content": " The Senate Majority Leader, please proceed."
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"content": " Mr. Speaker, Sir, I would like to comment on SHA. I do not know why people get offended or worked up when we say SHA is working. What else are we supposed to say? There is addiction to bad news in the country. Leaders must begin to live and know that they are dealers in hope. I celebrate because I have visited four out of six sub-county hospitals in my county. For each of those hospitals that I have visited, the one thing that I ask all the patients is, “Were you registered with SHA before being admitted?” For all those who told me that they had registered before, SHA made part of their bill as any other insurance would. So, if we report back, we are only doing our duty because that is the work of a representative of the people. The issue that has been brought by Sen. (Dr.) Boni Khalwale is serious and requires the keen attention of those that are addressing the matter. I voted against the amendment that had seen transitioning of all National Health Insurance Fund (NHIF) staff into SHA, fully aware why I did that. I know that 95 per cent to even 99 per cent of The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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