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"content": "We need to sort this out. The county assemblies should be properly funded for them to perform their primary oversight duties. This message was given to me, formally by Members of my County Assembly. They appeared before the Committee. I know that the Committee has looked at them favorably, but that is not enough. What the County Assembly of Tana River has said is that they want more allocation for them to carry out primary oversight duties. I am sure it is not just the Tana River County Assembly committees. There are many other committees that are having issues with funding, so that they can do the primary oversight duties. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "Madam Temporary Speaker, the other issue that has been brought to life in in this proposed law is the proposed Clause 10 of the County Allocation of Revenue Bill, 2025. The clause provides for the actions that constitute financial misconduct. This is important because there is a schedule that has been provided on how monies are supposed to depart from the National Treasury and go into the County Revenue Fund (CRF). This movement from the National Treasury, despite the schedules that we pass here, and the law that has to be obeyed, they never follow the schedules. Due to this failure to follow the instruction that is given by the Senate, we have very difficult operational circumstances within the counties. You can have a county that has not paid its workers for a period of two or sometimes three months. When these workers are not paid for that long, and suddenly a lot of money comes at the same time, it creates systemic inefficiencies. This is why I have called many times for the separation of the National Treasury, so that we have two clear functions; the National Treasury that is dedicated to servicing national Government, and a Treasury or a sub-office dedicated to serving the county assemblies, so that there is always money that is released timeously. Money has value when it is released on time. If you need Kshs10,000 now, it may not be useful to get Kshs100,000 or even Kshs1 million two days later, when Kshs10,000 was required now for a purpose. That Kshs10,000 becomes more valuable than the larger amount that comes later. We need to find a way in which officers at the National Treasury can prioritize proper movement of monies. If this schedule is obeyed, then we should have less problems in terms of counties managing their finances. I will not repeat that governors, as they receive this money, must remember they have a duty to the people. They have a duty to do work. Once we have finished with this, they have a constitutional and a civic duty, in fact, even a spiritual duty, to make sure that this money reaches those areas that are needed. Madam Temporary Speaker, it is not enough for us to just pass these monies. These monies, when they go down there, must do the work, so that devolution makes sense. We have seen counties that have done very well and others that have not done as well. We pray, Madam Temporary Speaker, as we pass these monies in this financial year, they will be utilized in the manner that is equivalent to the shared value of devolution. I beg to support."
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"content": " Hon. Senators, I do not see other contributors, so I now wish to call the Mover to reply."
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"content": "Thank you, so much, Madam Temporary Speaker. I appreciate my colleagues, led by Sen. Cherarkey for the great input while seconding this very important Bill for this House at this critical time. I also thank Sen. Karen Nyamu, from Nairobi City County, where we both represent, for her great input, knowing very well Nairobi is really leading with pending bills. This Bill is very critical, not only to this great County of Nairobi City, but also cutting across to all the 47 counties. I also to appreciate the legend, none other than Sen. Mungatana, for his wonderful input. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "Madam Temporary Speaker, I also know that if you were also seated on this other side, we would have had your great submission, as you have always submitted before this House. I beg that the putting of the question be deferred to a later date."
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"content": " Hon. Senators, putting of the question is so deferred."
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"content": "Next Order."
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