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"content": "To reduce the minimum single bet in a casino from Kshs20 to Kshs1, unless you want me to bring a casino somewhere in Bomet. In the Committee Report - this is not my report - I think when he will be replying, he can clarify. We should stop robbing gatekeepers of certain interests. I know them, I have been around for long. I know they are putting on a mask, but we will unmask them when the time comes during voting. Clause 66 is on the issue of financial reporting and money laundering. I agree they have done a good job there. On the issue of money laundering, there are people who are stealing public funds. We used to have pirates here in Somalia. There was a lot of money coming. Today, it is called illicit money. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "On the issue of money laundering, Sen. Sigei, you have done extremely well on this matter. We must address money laundering. We do not want people to be stealing money and putting it into betting. This is the process of money laundering and reintegrating the illicit money into the system. Clause 71 is on penalty. I disagree on this. I think by deleting the amount of Kshs 5 million and replacing it with Kshs3 million--- I thought we had agreed. While we do not want to morally legislate, why would you reduce? We want this to be punitive. We want people who want to gamble to be people who have excess money, like Sen. Issa and Sen. Faki. We want people who have a lot of money to gamble this Kshs 5 million. I am happy Sen. Issa is proud of it, that the Kshs 3 million should stay. I hope when it comes to the Committee of the Whole, that issue can be relooked. Clause 87 is on television. I agree. On this one, remove the restriction that a gambling advertisement shall not be broadcast on television between 6.00 a.m. to 10.00 p.m. unless it is done on a live sporting event. I agree because most of our children, who are part of your guests today, are asleep at that time. Then we can do a Parental Guidance (PG), so that those adverts of betting and gambling can be done during the watershed moment and also protect our children who are under 18 years. I disagree with the proposal to reduce the fine from the Kshs20 million to Kshs 1million or imprisonment for 20 years. Why do you want to reduce from the amount from Kshs20 million to Kshs1 million? This is wrong. Any media that advertises beyond the restricted time should be fined 20 million. With those many recommendations, I beg to differ and will oppose with all my body organs when it comes to voting."
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"content": " Sen. Faki."
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"content": "Mhe. Spika, asante sana kwa kunipa fursa hii nichangie Ripoti hii ya Uwiano kuhusiana na sheria ya Kamari. Jambo la kwanza ni kuwa ijapokuwa Kamati hizi mbili zilikaa pamoja na kujaribu kuangalia yale masuala ya sheria ya kamari, kamari sio biashara. Kamari ni kamari. Kamari ina madhara mengi ikiwemo ile tunaita uraibu. Vilevile inasababisha athari za akili yaani mental health . Wengi wale ambao wanakwenda katika shuguli hizi, wanaathirika kiakili. Bila ya kwenda kwenye mchezo wa kamari, mtu yule anakuwa sio wa kawaida. Tatizo nililonalo na sheria hii ni kwamba imetoa fursa ya kufanya hata watu wadogo waweze kucheza kamari. Ikiwa kiwango cha pesa ambazo unaweza kutumia kwa kamari kimepunguzwa kutoka shilingi ishirini mpaka shilingi moja ina maana kwamba, kila mtu anaweza kuhiriki katika mchezo wa kamari. Bw. Spika, sheria nyingine ni kwamba, ndani ya vituo vyetu vya redio kwa sasa, matangazo mengi ni ya kamari. Kwa kipindi cha muda wa saa moja katika redio zetu za FM, wanatumia kutangaza kamari. Utasikia ukilipa shilingi mia, utapata shilingi elfu mbili au laki mbili. Imekuwa sasa ni jambo la kawaida katika nchi yetu kwamba, watu wanashiriki masuala ya kamari. Hili sio jambo nzuri kwa sababu, baadhi ya zile athari nilizotaja hapa, zitawahasibu Wakenya wengi na nchi haitapata watu wanaweza kufanya kazi ili kujenga nchi. Ningependekeza sheria ingefanywa ngumu au kali zaidi kuhusiana na wale wanakiuka sheria kuhusiana na masuala ya kamari. Kwa mfano, hivi vituo vya redio vinavyotangaza mara kwa mara masuala ya kamari, vingepunguziwa muda wanatakikana The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "kutangaza kamari. Bila kufanya hivyo, ina maana kila mtu ataingia katika mchezo wa kamari na si vizuri kwa nchi yetu ya Kenya. Kwa hivyo, Shirika la Communications Authority of Kenya (CAK) lazima liwe macho ili kuhakikisha zile kamari zinatangazwa mara kwa mara na zinazoadhiri watu wetu zinapunguzwa. Bw. Spika, kwa sababu ya hii kamari iko katika vyombo vya habari na kila mahali, hata zile kasino ambazo zamani zilikuwa sehemu za kamari, hivi sasa zimefifia na biashara nyingi za kasino zimefungwa. Hii ni kwa sababu wengi wanashiriki katika kamari ambayo iko kwa mitandao, yaani online, na zile sehemu ambazo kamari ilikuwa ikichezwa zamani, zimebadilika na zikawa hata mahali pa kuishi. Watu wanacheza kamari. Bibi na bwana wanashiriki katika kamari na kila moja akijaribu kushabikia timu yake ya mpira ama jambo fulani ambalo iwapo atashinda, watapata zile pesa wamewekeza katika kamari hiyo. Kwa hayo mengi, Bw. Spika, ninapinga Mswada huu."
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"content": " Sen. Mungatana."
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"content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir, thank you for giving me the opportunity to contribute on this mediated version and this report that has come back to the Senate for approval. I commend the team that sat down for this mediation process. On our side, we were led by our Senator and Chairperson of the Committee on Information, Communication and Technology (ICT), Sen. Chesang. We are grateful that some of the critical issues we raised and those that were bringing disagreements between the two Houses have been resolved. This means that in a shortwhile, this Bill will become law after assent by His Excellency the President. During the main debate of this gambling law when it was at the Senate, I raised the issue of physical presence. You will find foreigners are truly exploiting Kenyans and they are doing it online. Foreigners who are involved in gambling do grooming of potential customers who are Kenyans. They will put very nice, well-spoken ladies to talk to people. They will make sure that you have a few winnings at the beginning. Once you are hooked, they start taking money from you and there is no physical presence of these offices in Kenya. In my practice of law, I came across a victim who explained to me what happened. They send you agreements and these agreements give you confidence that although they do not have a physical presence in Kenya, you will get your money. Sure enough, the first few, you will get and then afterwards, when you have put good money, you will hear that company has closed down. You will go to their website and it will not be there. Mr. Speaker, Sir, this report is saying that going forward, physical presence will be mandatory. This is a good thing and I support this report. Again, it says that for foreigners who wish to engage in this business - if you can call it that - of gambling, must put a substantial security. I believe the report had recommended something like Kshs50 million. This ensures that in case that gambling or online gambling collapses or closes down, the potential victims can go and secure at least, to the extent of Kshs50 million. This is a good development because I am aware that some of these online foreign companies that have been engaged in stealing from Kenyans set up business say in the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC). They encourage a few people and once the The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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