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"content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir, I request just 30 seconds to wind up because I have a very important message. The administrators of Moi University should also be taken to task. Why is it that money is contributed to the SACCO and they do not remit it? They are the people who are causing institutions to collapse. We have been dealing with that issue in the county governments, where employees contribute money and even statutory deductions but that money is not remitted. So, this is criminal in its nature. Mr. Speaker, Sir, allow me just 30 more, please?"
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"content": " Okay, please wind up."
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"content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir, it is important that in responding to the prayers, the first thing that should happen is that the auction must be stopped. This is because what is happening is quite suspicious. Most public buildings which are sold are mostly undervalued. Unless this Senate stops that action, people who have been contributing money to better their lives will end up languishing in poverty. Finally, Mr. Speaker, Sir, I would like to join you in welcoming the students from Tangaza University College, where I made an address, and also the staff of the EALA. I played basketball with them in Tanzania and I am glad that they are in Kenya to see how we carry out our business. I thank you."
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"content": "Asante Bw. Spika, kwa kunipa nafasi hii ili kusema maneno machache kuhusu Malalamishi ambayo yako mbele yetu. Kwanza, nampongeza Sen. (Prof.) Kamar kwa kuleta Malalamishi haya kwa wakati ufaao. Ni kweli kabisa kwamba watu huwa na miungano kwa ajili ama kusudi la kunufaika. Nitapeana mfano wa Kilifi. Tulikuwa na mtambo wa korosho na kulikuwa na miungano ama co-operatives ambazo zilianzishwa wakati huo. Wengi ambao walikuwa wakichanga pesa walikuwa kina mama kwa sababu mtambo huo uliwaandika kina mama wengi sana. Hata hivyo, pesa yao ilienda hivyo na hakuna anayejua kwa kuwa mtambo wenyewe ulisambaratika. Wahenga walisema; yaliyopita si ndwele, tugange yajayo. Mambo yaliyoko mbele yetu yanafaa kutiliwa mkazo na kuchukuliwa ya muhimu. Kamati itakayohusika inafaa kufanya haraka kuhakikisha kwamba haitasambaratika kama vile zingine zilivyosambaratika. Vile vile, ningependa kuzungumza machache kuhusu EALA na pia kuwashukuru wafanyikazi wake kuja kututembelea. Nikiwa mwanakamati wa Kamati ya Uwuiano na Utengamano, nina jambo la kuzungumzia kuhusu Bunge letu la Afrika Mashariki. Hii ni kwa sababu tulitembelea Bunge lakini tuliwakosa waheshimiwa Wabunge kwa vile walikuwa likizoni wakati huo."
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"content": "The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate."
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"content": "Tulifanya ziara Afrika Mashariki yote. Katika mizunguko yetu tuliona kuna sehemu kadha wa kadha ambazo zinahitaji mkazo. Kwa mfano, tulitembelea Zanzibari, tukakuta maafisa wenu pale hawaielewi lugha ya Kiswahili kabisa. Afadhali sisi angalau tunajaribu. Tulishangaa jinsi wanavyofanya kazi na watu wengini. Ninawasihi mtilie mkazo Kiswahili ili kiwe kikitumika katika nchi zote za Afrika Mashariki. Hii ni kwa sababu kuna biashara inayoendelea baina ya mataifa haya ya Afrika Mashariki. Kwa hivyo, ninafikiri Kiswahili kingedumu zaidi katika nchi zote husika za Afrika Mashariki. Kuna mambo mengi ambayo yanaenda sawa na mengine hayaendi sawa---"
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"content": " Your time is up."
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"speaker_name": "Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr.",
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. This is a very sad Petition. It is a sad Petition to the extent that it appears that the members of these SACCO have been ring-fenced by authorities, both at county, national level and to some level of extent, the Judiciary to frustrate them. Mr. Speaker, Sir, our Constitution is clear and maybe, Sen. (Prof.) Kamar can hear this. Our Constitution allows people to get injunctive relief in anticipation of violation. The court cannot dismiss a suit simply because a procedure was not followed. It is an anticipated violation. Mr. Speaker, Sir, Schedule IV is clear that the cooperative societies fall under county governments. How is it that the county government allowed the Commissioner of Cooperative Societies, in this Petition, to interfere and attempt to revoke the license of this society? Where I come from in Makueni County, the Commissioner would first report to the Director in Makueni before such an action was taken. However, what is criminal and happens all the time is when somebody has an interest in a property like this belonging to a society, they under-value it for purposes of paper work. The bulk of the money is paid outside the transaction. How is it that no court can see that when you sell a property like this belonging to 3,000 members, you have violated their rights? How can a Senator who taught in a school and Moi University, where we are proud of the wok that he did--- How can the university refuse to remit the deductions of SACCO members? That is the worst. When I say that sometime this country has become the land of Karl Max, it is true because we have the haves and the have nots. The people who matter people most and those who do not matter at all. The rights of 3,000 members are being violated. This is such a serious Petition on violation of economic and social rights that---"
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"content": "On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir."
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