James Orengo

All parliamentary appearances

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• 10 Nov 2021 in Senate: Without fear of contradiction, extrajudicial killing is a trait and character of a weak State. In South America, where there were a lot of disappearances and extrajudicial killings, it happened when there were absolute dictatorships. We know what happened in the recent history to the extent that many of those states are now democratic, where we have less and less of those disappearances. Some may be out of drug wars in countries where there are issues with drugs. Some of the institutions such as the Kenya National Commission for Human Rights (KNCHR) and IPOA were created to look into the ... view
• 10 Nov 2021 in Senate: “If you raise your hand to kill me, I will not raise mine to kill you.” This is something that comes from providence; from the Almighty. Even in a situation where there is justification as is provided in Article 26 of the Constitution, that the State can intervene, the Holy Quran says, “If you raise your hand to kill me I will not raise mine to kill you.” This is the holy word that even where the state has justification, it can do anything, but not kill. That is the word of the Lord. All the time we try to ... view
• 10 Nov 2021 in Senate: Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, the number of extrajudicial killings in Nairobi is something that we will never know because there are incidences that never come to public lime light. There are families who never come up to complain. view
• 10 Nov 2021 in Senate: I remember one time I dealt with a case that I will never forget. There was a young man who came to me to act for him. He was originally part of the Mungiki, but then he decided to work with the state. There was a crime incident that took place somewhere around Jerusalem in Eastlands. The state thought that this young man had a hand in it. He came to me and said that those people were looking for him. If he went to the police stations without me, he was not going to survive. He knew what they ... view
• 10 Nov 2021 in Senate: The state should know that with this new written Constitution that we have, they have no excuse in trying to deal with incidences of insecurity or crime and take people’s lives without justification. If there is justification, it should be within the legal parameters. This means that if it happens, we can go to the court of law and demonstrate that the State was justified in carrying out a killing either in self -defense or the person was a danger to the community, the people around him or the state institutions, including the police. view
• 10 Nov 2021 in Senate: Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I hope that with this report, we can have a paradigm shift. I think that this report speaks for itself on what should be done, what should be put in place and how the police should behave. When we say these things, it is not that we do not realize that we have a very good police force. We appreciate that all the time. view
• 10 Nov 2021 in Senate: Our criticism should not be seen as having doubt with what the police are doing. If you go to the states where the police force does not exist or the military tries to act as the police, you will be amazed about how inept other non-police forces of institutions can deal with civilians or the people in general. view
• 10 Nov 2021 in Senate: Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, we have a professional police service, but they should live by the ethics of the Constitution. The Constitution itself says that they should abide by the bill of rights. Therefore, I hope that in approving this report, we should not delay in proceeding with making those legislative proposals and coming up with a Bill that tries to firmly deal with the question of abductions, disappearances and extrajudicial killings. view
• 10 Nov 2021 in Senate: In my life, I have always said that perfect murders can only be committed by state institutions, for example, those of J.M. Kariuki, Robert Ouko, Tom Mboya and Mr. Juma. Those were extrajudicial killings. Recently, there is a question about Ronald Ngala. Unless an ordinary person, a cartel of criminals or a cabal of evil forces is in charge of the state, it is very difficult for them to commit a perfect crime. view
• 10 Nov 2021 in Senate: Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, to have an offence that is committed and the state cannot unravel is extremely difficult. Up to now, I believe that we never came to know the killers of J.M. Kariuki, Tom Mboya, Pio Gama Pinto, and Mr. Juma, as Sen. Madzayo has just told me. We never came to know of those that were responsible for perpetrating those heinous crimes because the state was involved. view