James Orengo

All parliamentary appearances

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• 15 May 2014 in Senate: Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I want to say from the outset that I do not support this Bill. The reason I am saying I am not supporting the Bill is that even the Chair of the Committee on Finance, Commerce and Budget does not support Bill in the current form and shape it is in. If anybody is in doubt that there is something amiss with the Bill, do not ask the Senator for Siaya County, but the Chair of the Committee. If you doubt me further, look at the Order Paper, the parts of the Bill that he intends ... view
• 15 May 2014 in Senate: Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I know there is that record. So, I do not know what my learned friend is scared of. I truly would not want to associate him with the Anglo Leasing scam although his name keeps on cropping up. I do not know what he will do about it. But my hand was, probably, pointing somewhere else. view
• 15 May 2014 in Senate: But, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, on the basis of constitutionalism, there are things that in this nation we either do them right and we succeed, or we do them wrong and we do not succeed. When it comes to shares of revenue, we better do it right rather than doing it wrong to please the National Assembly or the national Executive. Even as The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate. view
• 15 May 2014 in Senate: Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I find it difficult to use any other word, because fraud is fraud. In my own opinion, it is fraud. Fraud and forgery are related offences. If you have a document that is telling a lie about itself, that is a fraud and forgery. I am fortified--- view
• 15 May 2014 in Senate: Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, fraud is not unparliamentary language. You are gagging me. It is my opinion that the only reason that there is an intended amendment on that column, showing that the allocation to the county governments is 43 per cent. That is simply not true. If it is not true, my conclusion is that, that amendment is coming because that figure is telling a lie about what is contained in that Schedule. view
• 15 May 2014 in Senate: Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, in order not to spend time on the word that I have used, because there is a point that I want to make, I withdraw the word “fraud” and substitute therefor “deception.” It is deception because in accordance with the Constitution, what we should be giving the country and counties is last year’s audited accounts, if you go by Article 229 of the Constitution. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, with those remarks, I oppose. view
• 15 May 2014 in Senate: On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. My small, but very important point is that we have an Act of Parliament, the Division of Revenue Act (No.31 of 2013). In that Act, there is a Schedule, which is a part of the Act, which says that the percentage of the approved audited revenue for 2010/2011 was Kshs608.1 billion. So, whereas we are being told orally that there is a mistake, this is part of the law of Kenya, with a Schedule showing us that there were those audited accounts. So, I appreciate what the Chair is saying, but ... view
• 15 May 2014 in Senate: On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. Let me just use the Bill that is before us. It does not say what is required under the Constitution; which is the most recent audited accounts. If you look at the footnote as compared to the Act we passed last year, where the footnote was correct, but this one is saying that “based on 2009/2010 audited revenues approved by the National Assembly”. It does not say the most recent audited accounts. view
• 15 May 2014 in Senate: Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I am sorry, what we have been referring to talks about the most recent audited accounts. Even going by this Bill, the provisions of the Constitution have not been complied with. The statement should have been “not audited revenues approved by the National Assembly by 2009/2010”. The requirement is that it should say that those accounts are the most recent audited accounts by the National Assembly. view
• 15 May 2014 in Senate: Mr. Chairman, Sir, I also wish to strongly support this amendment. While supporting it, I think we must look for a lasting solution to make sure that similar facilities exist in all the counties as opposed to just some of the counties. view