Joseph Kipchumba Lagat

All parliamentary appearances

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• 5 Apr 2006 in National Assembly: Table it! view
• 5 Apr 2006 in National Assembly: On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir. While I would like to respect your ruling, Prof. Kibwana and Mr. Mungatana are on record as having taken the debate outside this House. view
• 5 Apr 2006 in National Assembly: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I also have the experience of being in this Committee for the last two terms. It will be very difficult to talk after the Leader of the Official Opposition has given such an eloquent and detailed account of the Report. Mr. Speaker, Sir, in seconding the Motion, I want hon. Members to understand very clearly the genesis of the second Anglo Leasing Scandal. The initial Anglo Leasing Scandal cost an initial sum of Kshs600 million. That is what I would like to deal with mainly. Page 4 of our Report, No.38(c) states very clearly:- "The ... view
• 5 Apr 2006 in National Assembly: If you look at the history of the Attorney-General, it is unfortunate! I am yet to know whether he has won any case! He lost all the cases that came before the Public Accounts Committee (PAC). If you look at the reasons that were given to us, the Attorney-General abdicated his responsibility. He was very keen to give a legal opinion to the financiers. But, unfortunately, he failed to assist our own procuring departments to get sound contracts. If you look at the contracts that were signed, the legal opinions and amendments that were given by officers in the Attorney-General's ... view
• 5 Apr 2006 in National Assembly: Mr. Speaker, Sir, I was saying that Mr. Oyula, in his testimony, said that he was ordered by Mr. Mwiraria to ensure that those funds are refunded immediately. When you go to a certain officer and order him to ensure that money is refunded and, indeed, it is refunded--- There was no correspondence to show that there was a legal tussle between Anglo-Leasing and Treasury! The money was refunded immediately. It is a clear indication that there was a special relationship between the Treasury and the principals of Anglo-Leasing. There was no tussle. The money was returned. Unfortunately, we lost ... view
• 5 Apr 2006 in National Assembly: Mr. Speaker, Sir, there could not be any other chief. That was the conclusion of Members. The chief to us could not have been a chief in the village. view
• 5 Apr 2006 in National Assembly: Mr. Speaker, Sir, I was just quoting what is on the tapes. They are available to hon. Members. There have been cases where hon. Members have argued that we should also mention other projects in the past. We were only dealing with Anglo-Leasing. Anglo-Leasing related to the passport issuing equipment. We will have an opportunity, as the Public Accounts Committee, to 392 PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES April 5, 2006 look at the other 18 projects once this House approves that. Therefore, there should be no issue as to why we looked at projects during the KANU or NARC era. Mr. Speaker, Sir, ... view
• 5 Apr 2006 in National Assembly: Mr. Speaker, Sir, there is a pertinent question that Members must ask themselves every time. Now, we are discussing issues that we referred to the Controller and Auditor-General, to audit and give us a report. The question is, why has this report not been brought previously to this House? Where has the PAC been previously? Some of the reports that are given to the Treasury are delayed. Evidence adduced before this Committee indicates that, indeed, all the 18 projects were audited way back at the beginning of last year and completed. They were given to the Treasury, but the Treasury ... view
• 5 Apr 2006 in National Assembly: Mr. Speaker, Sir, I want to talk about budgeting. If we look at all these contracts, as said by the Chairman of the Public Accounts Committee (PAC), we realise that they were paid outside the budgeting process. According to the External Audit Act, payments of such contracts must be brought to the House for approval. It would be very unfair to require the House to continue approving budgets while it is not aware of all the projects that have been done outside the budget 394 PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES April 5, 2006 process. Land Rovers and items relating to the Meteorological Department ... view
• 28 Mar 2006 in National Assembly: Mr. Speaker, Sir, I want to help the Chair make a decision. You will recall that during the last Session, we tabled a Report of the PAC that was chaired by Mr. Omingo. That report was, indeed, rejected by the House. Once the Controller and Auditor-General raises an audit query, it remains as such. Once the report is rejected by the House, the status quo remains. That it is still an audit query. Therefore, given that the Controller and Auditor-General has raised an audit query and it has not been resolved, it is upon the Committee to resolve that issue. ... view