10 Nov 2021 in National Assembly:
Sorry, Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, I have no intention of interrupting the speaker but I am trying to consider the order of business today. I am trying to catch up with him on which order we are in.
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10 Nov 2021 in National Assembly:
Mine is on the Committee of the whole House. Is he reading the correct Order Paper? The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor.
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10 Nov 2021 in National Assembly:
Okay. I see.
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10 Nov 2021 in National Assembly:
Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, I rise to seek further direction as a matter of intervention. I know that the substantive Speaker ruled substantively on the issues that should come before the Committee for deliberation, but I also know that he further directed the several Members who have proposed amendments to the Bill to caucus and come up with issues that they agree on. I speak as the Vice-Chairperson of the Committee that was tasked with that assignment. We are in a rather awkward position as the Committee in that, that meeting by the three Members did not include us. As ...
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10 Nov 2021 in National Assembly:
Just allow me to finish what I am saying. We do not know the extent or the specific issues that the Members would want to either prosecute or drop according to their caucuses. I have had a word with the Member for Garissa Township whom I consider to be a ranking Member. I should have also consulted the Member for Suba North because she too is a ranking Member. You can see where we are. We want this Bill to be prosecuted and finalised, but we are asking for direction that the three Members come and speak with us as ...
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10 Nov 2021 in National Assembly:
I, therefore, ask for your direction, if that may be necessary.
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10 Nov 2021 in National Assembly:
I am sorry Members. I am not appearing difficult. I am just trying to say that it would be nice, as Committees of the whole House have done before, that views of the Committee are taken in consideration. So, if there are some amendments that are not known to the Committee, when we reach there and the Chair asks, “What does the Committee say about this specific amendment?” we may not be prepared because we have not considered them. Would it be too much if, for example, the Members would divulge “we have dropped these on those specific areas but ...
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10 Nov 2021 in National Assembly:
Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairlady, I have a lot of respect for this substantial Member. I do not know how but today, the House is composed of men and women I differ with. I think because the business at hand is important. I see a lot of sense in what the Member for Suba North is doing, except as you know I am a stickler to procedure. I would wish it is followed so that those of us who are struggling and are in their first years will see the beauty and sweetness of following procedure.
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10 Nov 2021 in National Assembly:
You know I made a suggestion to the House when the Speaker was in the Chair. You see the Committee was not involved in this but it was an interaction among the three Members who had proposed amendments. Had they come before us, we would have quite condensed and the Mover would have come with what she proposes. That way, the Order Paper would have been clean because we would have agreed the manner in which they would propose. However, we will take you round in circles. My suggestion is that we amend this Bill step by step. For example, ...
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10 Nov 2021 in National Assembly:
by him. The procedure demands that amendments are seen and approved by the Speaker other than the fact that we know that the proposer has an opportunity to further amend what she is proposing. Before we even consider the amendment, I would want to ask the Chair that if we go the way Members are suggesting, we will really be muddled. For example, we are being asked to put C before A and to renumber those programmes. I also still have substantive issues to deal with on the amendment to paragraph (4). But before we get to it, let us ...
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