Ledama Olekina

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• 10 Apr 2025 in Senate: Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. This is a House of union. I always say that this House unites the entire country. When we have a crisis in terms of The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate. view
• 10 Apr 2025 in Senate: the management of our counties, it behooves all of us to come together and come up with a solution. The Statement raised by Sen. Dullo should worry all of us. This is because the county chief officers are tasked with the day-to-day running of those counties. Hearing that the County Government of Isiolo does not have the 32 chief officers begs a big question: who is running that county? According to the PFMA Act, the chief officers have got a fiducial responsibility to ensure that the funds are utilised well. It is the chief officer who has to sign when ... view
• 10 Apr 2025 in Senate: Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, Sen. Abass is my colleague and so when he informs me, I have to take it seriously. However, one thing that worries me, and this is one of the things that I am trying to bring to the attention of this House, is that when we have the two county assemblies operating in one county - and this one says it is a county assembly - it is illegal. So, really, we have to look at it this way: The Speaker of this House sits on that Chair, having been elected by the Members of this ... view
• 9 Apr 2025 in Senate: Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I second. view
• 8 Apr 2025 in Senate: Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. I rise to make comments on this important Petition. Allow me thank Laban for having really thought about the expenditures. Some of those expenditures end up being nugatory expenditures in county governments. Why do county governments choose to hire services of lawyers instead of using in-house counsel? We have over 20,000 lawyers in this country and probably 11,000 who are practicing. I am looking at the recommendations which the Committee came up with. Earlier on, we discussed the issue of conflict of interest. I think the first thing that the Committee Members would have done ... view
• 8 Apr 2025 in Senate: matter has gone and the owner of the land who is being challenged by the county government won the matter and he was awarded Kshs30 billion by the courts. I was just having a simple conversation with three lawyers in this House; the retired judge, Sen. Sifuna and Sen. Wakili Sigei on terms of legal fees for an award of Kshs30 billion if it has to be cancelled. Sen. Wakili Sigei said, “give me an instruction, just in terms of instructions, of Kshs400 million then let us talk about disbursements.” So, in total it would end up being almost Kshs1.2 ... view
• 8 Apr 2025 in Senate: I am looking at this recommendation and I think that we have not done a service to that petitioner. Previously, we never used to debate these petitions. However, it is important that we debate them, so that we can poke holes to the recommendations that have been given. The recommendations should have been far more reaching by capping the amount of money that county government can spend on outsourcing legal services. We should cap them to a maximum of Kshs100 million. The county governments should then use in-house lawyers or hire in-house lawyers if they do not have them. Does ... view
• 8 Apr 2025 in Senate: Not necessarily the dirty work, but they do the groundwork. I have corrected myself. They do the heavy lifting. view
• 8 Apr 2025 in Senate: Madam Temporary Speaker, I would definitely love him to inform me. He is my senior. view
• 8 Apr 2025 in Senate: Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. You know, Senator Madzayo is my senior and leader. I respect his corrections. Let me use the words ‘heavy lifting.’ view