10 Feb 2009 in National Assembly:
On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. Is it in order for the Chair to only see the people sitting next to him? I have sat here for many days, and there is no time I have caught the eye of the Chair.
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10 Feb 2009 in National Assembly:
Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I must put it on record!
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9 Feb 2009 in National Assembly:
Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, thank you for giving me a chance to support this Bill. One thing that I want to say is that as leaders and Members of Parliament we are here because of the transitional clause. Our responsibility is to be truthful and honest to the people of Kenya. The people of Kenya voted for a new Constitution. Therefore, our responsibility is to pass this according to the spirit of the new Constitution.
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9 Feb 2009 in National Assembly:
I have read this Bill on the vetting of judges and magistrates. Let me touch on Section 14, which many people have spoken about. When I look at it, I am left wondering if the Minister for Justice, National Cohesion and Constitutional Affairs is following the new Constitution. Why do I say that? Where we are as a nation, especially the judiciary, is because of the way the appointing authority was appointing judges. The appointing authority was the President through the Judicial Service Commission (JSC). Now the Minister has brought back this section. I am not sure whether as a ...
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9 Feb 2009 in National Assembly:
We have talked about judges and magistrates. I tell you, these people work under a very hostile environment. There is no scheme of service, and no clear procedure of employment. A mediocre lawyer somewhere is made a judge and made your senior. Since you are also a judge, you must work with him because he has been appointed, and you have nothing else to do. So, let us not condemn the judiciary or magistrates as if they are a creation of themselves. The High Court judges and the Court of Appeal judges are appointed by the JSC. If these people ...
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9 Feb 2009 in National Assembly:
Therefore, I would appeal to the two principals to bring sanity to the Government. I also want to tell the Minister for Justice, National Cohesion and Constitutional that, for the sake of this nation--- When he brings these kinds of Bills, what message is he sending out? As far as I am concerned, the problem we have is not a creation of the judiciary itself. It is caused by those who appointed the men and women who are there. Some of them have done a good job, and some of them have done a very bad job. But also look ...
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9 Feb 2009 in National Assembly:
Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, the other thing that I want to ask the Minister is why the Kadhi Courts are not here. Kadhi Courts are going to be under the JSC. Is he saying that in the Kadhi Courts we do not have any problem, or is he avoiding to deal with Kadhi Courts? Why have they been left out? I thought that when we are doing a vetting process, we shall include everybody, so that when we form the JSC everybody who will be there will be trustworthy. We have talked about what happened in 2007, and I ...
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9 Feb 2009 in National Assembly:
I also request the principals to give this nation a chance to have a Chief Justice that everyone of us can trust. That is what is required, so that we do not have a false start as has happened before. This country needs to address issues of corruption. We know that the judges who are going to work for this nation will dispense justice. We should be able to trust the system. Even the policemen should be able to trust the system. Let us all face it. The policemen know that even if we take people to court they will ...
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9 Feb 2009 in National Assembly:
With those few remarks, I beg to support the Bill.
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28 Jan 2009 in National Assembly:
On a point of order, Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker. Is it in order for the Chair of the Committee and the Minister to engage themselves in some form of debate? The Report has been tabled. It is for us, hon. Members, to debate on whether we will adopt or reject it. I do not think it is in order for that exchange to take place.
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