Martha Karua

All parliamentary appearances

Entries 2051 to 2060 of 2953.

• 5 Feb 2009 in National Assembly: I have heard Members talk about the expense the Tribunal will cost the taxpayers. It is true that we are facing hard times. Our people need food. They also need other services but justice is never cheap; not in terms of time and money. If we do not uphold the rule of law, then our ability to feed ourselves will continue to be undermined. One of the reasons we do not have food is because some of the people engaged in farming activities were displaced. The second reason is rain. Failing to act claiming that we need the money for ... view
• 5 Feb 2009 in National Assembly: Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, I am saddened to notice that quite a number of Members think that the tribunal proposed is a commission of inquiry. It is being likened to the Goldenberg and other tribunals that are fashioned after a commission of inquiry. What is thought to be brought about is an actual special court. It is a criminal court and a court of law and not a tribunal. It is because Kenyans, through the Waki Commission, admitted that our institutions have failed to respond to the election-related violence, not just of 2007 but even previous incidents of violence ... view
• 5 Feb 2009 in National Assembly: Our investigators, prosecutors and courts have on the whole not responded adequately and also the Executive has not shown sufficient will over the years, not just this time, to respond to election-related violence. We are therefore, as a Government and following the recommendations of the Waki Commission, seeking to expand space in our Constitution so that we are able to set up a Special Tribunal; a tribunal in the sense of a criminal court with three distinct departments. These are investigatory, prosecutorial and a court to determine those matters. So, we are setting up a special system outside our normal ... view
• 5 Feb 2009 in National Assembly: Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, those who say that they have no faith even in the commissions of inquiry, the Kriegler Commission and Waki Commission were commissions of inquiry under the Commissions of Inquiries Act. But because they were brought about under Agenda Item 4 by the Grand Coalition, we have seen their recommendations being implemented. That is why there was the dissolution of the Electoral Commission of Kenya (ECK) and that is why we have advertised to hire an interim independent body. That is how, come today, we seek leave of Parliament to expand space. We bring a special ... view
• 5 Feb 2009 in National Assembly: It is okay to say, let them go to the Hague. The International Criminal Court (ICC) does not require this Parliament nor does it require the Waki Commission to mandate it to investigate international crimes committed anywhere in the world. It is not time barred. It has no statutes of limitation. That is why those who sent the Jews to the gas chambers are still being hunted all over the world and being tried more than half a century after the event. It can also happen to those who committed international crimes in Kenya. view
• 5 Feb 2009 in National Assembly: Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, but time is of essence to our nationhood. If we are going to wait for the next five to ten years to deal with the matters that have occurred in this country, can we hope then to have another election when we have unfinished business? What is being sought and proposed thereafter is not only to have a Special Tribunal with international standards and also having international and local personnel to deal with the crimes against humanity and international crimes, but also a special magistrates court to deal with crimes that do not amount to ... view
• 4 Feb 2009 in National Assembly: On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. view
• 4 Feb 2009 in National Assembly: On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. Standing Orders are clear that a Member has to be responsible for what they say. We would want the Member to substantiate the name-dropping of the First Lady's name in this House. Let him substantiate! view
• 4 Feb 2009 in National Assembly: On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. The documents tabled are not authenticated. Therefore, I believe you should give guidance. They are not documents that under the Standing Orders can be relied on by this House. They are unsigned and unauthenticated. view
• 4 Feb 2009 in National Assembly: On a point of order, Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir. Is the hon. Member on the Floor in order to anticipate debate? He is talking about the Special Tribunal for Kenya Bill and yet the Bill before the House is the Constitution of Kenya (Amendment) Bill. There is the rule of relevance in the Standing Orders. view