21 Feb 2012 in National Assembly:
I will move straight to Clause 19. Under this Clause, we create a Council of County Governors. This, again, is important because whereas the Summit provides for the interaction between the national Government or the President – the national Executive and the county Governments, the Council of County Governors is also important because we are now providing a legal framework where the governors of all the 47 counties can also have sessions in a structured format to discuss and maybe harmonize certain issues. There could be issues that relate to may be taxation levels in one county vis-a-vis another county. ...
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21 Feb 2012 in National Assembly:
Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, at the very outset, I want to thank the Members, once again, for their invaluable contribution to the Inter-Governmental Relations Bill. I would really request them, as we look at the HANSARD, if they can also draft some proposed amendments which we can share with the Committee when we are looking at the other proposals that they have also said that they are initiating.
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21 Feb 2012 in National Assembly:
Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, once again, I just want to highlight a few things. As you look at this Bill, we must remember that we are looking at Inter- Governmental Relations. I say so, with all the due respect to the Chairman of the Committee, because when bring in the Speaker’s Committee, here, or the Speaker’s forum, then I think we will be moving away from an Inter-Governmental Relation. Those are legislative bodies. So, we may want to think through that very carefully so that we are not creating an institution that is different from what this Bill intended to ...
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21 Feb 2012 in National Assembly:
Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, on the issue of the Provincial Administration, very important points have been made. I would strongly invite the House that as we look at the amendments to the previous Bill, the County Government Bill, especially, when we talk of decentralized units in that area. I think we can take on board some of the issues that have been raised with regard to the Provincial Administration and bring some clarity in that Bill rather than bringing it here. I think that is the more operative Bill. What is coming very clearly, Members are saying that once the ...
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21 Feb 2012 in National Assembly:
Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, issue of the qualification of the technical Committee, I think those are important. Indeed, we did provide only qualifications for the Secretary for the Technical Committee. However, we did not say anything about the other members of that Committee. Bearing in mind that this is going to be a very important body which will eventually also take over the functions of the transitional authority, we cannot afford to leave that hanging, because these are going to be very important decisions. We need people who have the necessary experience and knowledge to be able to deal with. ...
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21 Feb 2012 in National Assembly:
Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, on the senator candidate, hon. Khalwale has made a very passionate plea for us to look a little more seriously at how the role of the Senate can be better defined in this Bill. I know the role of the Senate is in the Constitution, but there are some aspects, or areas, which can be brought here, as they are not consistent with the Constitution; we need help in dealing with this. I agree that in some areas of dispute resolution--- Even if they were to go to a judicial process--- I think we should always ...
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21 Feb 2012 in National Assembly:
Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, I would like to plead with the hon. Members that they should not quite dismiss the council of county governors. It may look like it is a body that is perhaps duplicating certain roles, but we can craft it and look at this clause carefully; as we move on, there will be need to share experiences and make sure that these guys will be consulting. When you look at the functions, there will also be aspects of cities and urban areas, which these people will be dealing with. Some of them maybe almost like the metropolitan ...
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21 Feb 2012 in National Assembly:
Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, if you look at Clause 9 on the summit, we have said that they can meet at least twice a year, and that means that the summit can also meet more than twice. In Clause 21, we talk of the council of governors meeting at least twice a year, and then we say that in any case not more than four times. I agree with the Chair that we can just leave it at, at least twice a year, and then there is room for them to meet as and when it is necessary. So, we ...
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21 Feb 2012 in National Assembly:
Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, I agree that we could also provide that in the absence of the governor to chair the meetings of the council of county governors, the deputy governor can represent the respective county government in those meetings. There were other proposals which also bring in the Cabinet Secretary in charge of inter- governmental relations to be recognized fully as a member of the summit. I personally feel that, that is an important suggestion. We could gladly take it on board; I hope the committee will also be looking at that.
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21 Feb 2012 in National Assembly:
Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, the other area that we will look at is that of financing; hon. Khalwale mentioned some issues. We will reflect on that as we consult with the committee on the issue of the financing of these particular entities. We could, perhaps, make it better. When we were looking at this, we were also looking at the fact that these are two governments. They are independent but also interrelated, and will have to co-operate; the question was: Where is the moral authority to put the charge on purely one government in some of these areas? However, it ...
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