22 Oct 2019 in Senate:
Mr. Speaker, Sir, it is actually Kshs2,500. Imagine the money that governors are spending for listening allowances and public participation, some of which they do not do. They are spending Kshs1.9 to Kshs2.5 million on teas and breakfast. Imagine if this money was directed to community health workers. We take these community health workers so casually. The majority of whom - I am glad Sen. Halake has walked in and Sen. Seneta is listening - are women.
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22 Oct 2019 in Senate:
Mr. Speaker, Sir, they are women who have taken up this role to voluntarily help people get good services. Sen. (Dr.) Ali would agree with me on this since he is a doctor, that health is not just about treating diseases; It is about telling somebody who is diabetic to eat x, y or z. In the case of Kericho, where they are practicing traditional medicine, they use things that might help people who are suffering from various communicable diseases or otherwise. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I said one time I will have a conversation with you. Many people are beginning ...
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22 Oct 2019 in Senate:
This morning, we learnt during the medical leasing interrogation that we are buying torches for a Kshs1 million, stands at Kshs1.8 million and linen trolleys for Kshs2 million. It is a pity that we cannot afford to give Kshs2,500 or Kshs3,000 to community health workers who are working tirelessly to ensure that people are getting treatment and medical care. Mr. Speaker, Sir, other than this Motion, Sen. Nyamunga must proceed to have an amendment. I am aware - I have seen the Vice Chairperson here - that there are amendments to the Health Act. Can we in assistance of this ...
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22 Oct 2019 in Senate:
.: Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I rise to support the Motion by the County Public Accounts and Investments Committee (CPAIC) and for the avoidance of doubt, we congratulate them for pulling up their socks on these matters. We have now seen business about the CPAIC. Wherever these matters were getting stuck, somebody has pushed so that we can discuss these matters. This morning, Sen. M. Kajwang’, Sen. Cherargei, Sen. Faki, myself and a few other Senators met the representatives of the Office of the Auditor-General. This issue came to the fore about the absence of an Auditor-General. There is absence ...
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22 Oct 2019 in Senate:
.: Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, you attempted to persuade me to move the amendment at a later date but you can see that if Transparency International and the court had not come in to declare those portions of the law that came in through the veto of the President unconstitutional, that position would still be there. The independence of the Office of the Auditor-General is paramount. Section 9,10,11 and 12 of the Act talk about perpetual succession. The fact is that the Office of the Auditor-General is not tied to his person. It is an entity. Therefore, for purposes of ...
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22 Oct 2019 in Senate:
protecting the Office of the Auditor-General, there is no reason to have an acting Auditor-General. Now that the political times have changed, you and I know that you could not admit the mistake then. That time, there was mischief in trying to have a deputy of the former Auditor-General, Mr. Ouko, but bygones are bygones.
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22 Oct 2019 in Senate:
Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, secondly, I think that Sen. M. Kajwang’ can help us. These are reports on the operations of 20 counties in the Financial Year 2014/2015. I think that once these recommendations are passed by the Senate, in the usual manner that resolutions come from the Senate, the resolutions must be sent to the respective organizations picked from every report and once that is done, every Senator should be copied. The only way that we can do proper oversight at this point is if the governors know that we are aware of the issues that are bedevilling their ...
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22 Oct 2019 in Senate:
There is an issue that bothered me, and it has been highlighted in the report. We asked the Auditor-General why he insists that the opinions that they render are standard documents. We therefore asked the question if the report of the Auditor-General says that they have made a determination which is also stating that there was no misuse of public funds and then in the next paragraph, talk about stalled projects worth Kshs140 million like in the case of Makueni County, that is a contradiction in logic. You cannot have it both ways. It is either you cannot render an ...
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22 Oct 2019 in Senate:
and you did not disturb me back and forth about the documents on the building; you availed the documents, came for the meetings and were available, that according to them is a key audit query and would therefore lead to a conclusion that you supported the auditor and therefore you deserve an unqualified opinion. My God! The question of the misuse or whether there is proper use of public funds becomes a secondary issue. We must change that. I have also requested through the Chair that in the case of your county, assuming the Auditor-General issues a report, the same ...
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22 Oct 2019 in Senate:
Sen. M. Kajwang’ and his Committee have made very drastic recommendations. In the case of Makueni County, they have made recommendations to the extent that people should be surcharged and special audits should be conducted, financial statements should be issued and many more. We would want to know the implementation matrix of these recommendations. I know that one of the Senators is collecting signatures for us to have an implementation Committee but is that enough? Is it enough to have an implementation Committee? How do we, as a Senate, ensure that a recommendation for surcharge is carried out and that ...
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