9 Dec 2009 in National Assembly:
Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, we would like the hon. Member to declare his interest on this Question and then we can continue answering it. I have been courteous and I do not want to go into those depths. I am still willing not to go into the depth of it. Could the hon. Member declare his interest?
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9 Dec 2009 in National Assembly:
Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, first of all, you should realize that there is difference between the Ministry of Water and Irrigation, the National Irrigation Board (NIB) and the Food and Agricultural Organization (FAO). The FAO is not a branch of any Government. It is an organization and we have no control over them. The only funds that come to the Ministry of Water and Irrigation---
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9 Dec 2009 in National Assembly:
Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, I am very happy with the answer. Can I explain before I request the House to take the necessary action? The FAO, as I have said is not under my Ministry and, therefore, the support that directly comes to my Ministry is what I can explain. I can explain the Kshs3,150,000 that they gave us directly. But the rest of the money, they gave in terms of fertilizer, equipment and so on. Therefore, if anybody wants to question whether they spent the Kshs50 million or Kshs75 million, they cannot question my Ministry. They should ask ...
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9 Dec 2009 in National Assembly:
Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, as a Member of Parliament, I should carry myself with the dignity that is required of me and protect this Government. I said, clearly, that we received only Kshs1.3 million and using the balance, FAO, through my Ministry, directly procured and provided farm inputs to Bunyala, West Kano and Ahero irrigation schemes. The Director of FAO was categorical that he was not going to provide anything through West Kano Irrigation Scheme management. That is all. The answer I have given is the true position. We never received the Kshs50 million as the Ministry of Water ...
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9 Dec 2009 in National Assembly:
Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, I beg to reply. (a) Manooni Dam was constructed between 1984 and 1987 with funding by the European Union (EU) through the Machakos Integrated Development Programme (MIDP). The Government undertook to provide land for the dam. In 1983, representatives of 75 families affected by Manooni Dam signed an agreement with the MIDP giving their consent for project implementation and extinguishing their rights to claim any compensation from either MIDP or from my Ministry. The signing of consent documents was witnessed by the Provincial Administration. The agreement had an inclusion clause which clearly stated that land ...
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9 Dec 2009 in National Assembly:
(b) The land compensation cannot be carried out due to the reasons that I have given to the House. Further, my Ministry plans to rehabilitate and augment Manooni Dam and provide sufficient water to the communities living upstream.
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9 Dec 2009 in National Assembly:
Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, I am not ready to lay the document on the Table because the Questioner did not ask me to do that. However, if he wishes that I lay it on the Table, I can do it at a later stage. However, the most important thing is to see whether the hon. Member has a concern that would require a proper answer. The truth of the matter is that the farmers had extinguished their rights by signing that agreement. However, in 1985, two years later---
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9 Dec 2009 in National Assembly:
Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, that is where I am heading to. Between 1983 and 1984, they extinguished their rights by signing that agreement. However, you can see that it was very inhuman because, at the end of the day, they were removed from their farms and they have not been settled. The DDC sat down in 1985 and it was agreed that those farmers be compensated. So, that is where you should follow the issue from. The hon. Member can follow up the matter with the Ministry of Lands and the Office of the Deputy Prime Minister and Ministry ...
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9 Dec 2009 in National Assembly:
Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, an individual owner of a property or community can donate land or property for social use that benefits everyone. We have not looked at the circumstances that made those people to extinguish their rights then. As you can see, coming from Ukambani, probably there was a need for the dam to provide water. In fact, circumstances changed a year later after they realized that they could be compensated. That is why they were compensated for the crops. But they were not compensated for the land.
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9 Dec 2009 in National Assembly:
However, they have a right to be compensated. That is why I am advising the hon. Member to follow the right channels because if he presses the Ministry of Water and Irrigation, which is not in charge of settlement, he will not go very far. However, if he can pursue the matter with the Ministry of Lands and the Office of the Deputy Prime Minister and Minister for Finance, we will be ready to give evidence and say that they deserve to be paid after what happened.
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