All parliamentary appearances
Entries 971 to 980 of 1172.
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9 Aug 2007 in National Assembly:
Mr. Speaker, Sir, the Assistant Minister is not getting the issue. The issue is not that they are free in clinics which we may not access. The issue is that you are charging some duty when we import them. Could you zero-rate them? Could you remove the duty, so that they could become a little cheaper than Kshs400. Is that not what she said?
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9 Aug 2007 in National Assembly:
On a point of order, Mr. Chairman, Sir. Just before you move to Clause 7, there was a proposed amendment on Clause 5 by Mr. Angwenyi. However, it was not called out when we discussed Clause 5. As we were dealing with the clause, several amendments were called out, so that we could deal with them. Before Mr. Angwenyi went abroad last week, he asked me to propose some of these amendments on his behalf.
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9 Aug 2007 in National Assembly:
Mr. Chairman, Sir, my amendment deals with punishment. As you can see, Sub-clause (4) says that a person who contravenes the provisions of this section commits an offence; that is, a person who commits any offence on packaging, shall commit an offence, and shall, on conviction, be liable to a fine of Kshs1 million or imprisonment for five years. My argument is that this is too high. I think the punishment is draconian for the offence. Imagine that we are no longer talking of even jailing people for small offences like assault because our jails are full.
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9 Aug 2007 in National Assembly:
Mr. Chairman, Sir, on behalf of Mr. Angwenyi, I beg to move:- THAT, Clause 14 of the Bill be amended by deleting the words "one million" and "five years" appearing in sub-clause (4) and substituting therefor the words "five hundred thousand" and "three years" respectively. Mr. Chairman, Sir, it will still be a very serious offence.
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9 Aug 2007 in National Assembly:
We put "one year".
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9 Aug 2007 in National Assembly:
I am sorry; I read Clause 5 but I am talking about Clause 14. It is from Kshs1 million to Kshs500,000 and from five years to three years.
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9 Aug 2007 in National Assembly:
Mr. Chairman, Sir, the explanation is that Kshs1 million is a bit draconian. We will be making people who are not themselves manufacturers, people who are just traders and who may not be quite conversant--- The person we were targeting is the manufacturer, but as it is framed, it will even net some people who are not manufacturers themselves. I think we will be doing good for the country to reduce it to Kshs500,000, and three years, respectively.
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9 Aug 2007 in National Assembly:
Mr. Chairman, Sir, one word, because after listening to all these gentlemen, they seem to be targeting BAT. But just assume, for example, that a trader in Migori, at the border where I come from, or in Suba, which is also at the border, imports, maybe illegally, some cigarettes from Tanzania or Uganda, and wants to sell them in my village and then he is caught. You will fine that villager Kshs1 million, because that is what the law says. He may be fined Kshs1 million, that is what we are saying. Courts are tempted, sometimes, because we are trying ...
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9 Aug 2007 in National Assembly:
Mr. Chairman, Sir, I am back to plead that some of these punishments are a bit too high. Look at Clause 15 before I propose what I want to say. It says: "No person shall sell--- ". This one targets the seller.
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9 Aug 2007 in National Assembly:
Mr. Chairman, Sir, on behalf of Mr. Angwenyi, I beg to move:- THAT, Clause 15 of the Bill be amended by deleting the words "five hundred" and "three years" appearing in Sub-Clause (6) and substituting therefor the words "fifty" and "six months" respectively. The Clause, as is it in the Bill, targets a person who sells tobacco. He may be a small shopkeeper or a kiosk owner. Of course, he is committing an offence by selling cigarettes to a young person. I am not suggesting that we should excuse him or her. He may not even know the age of ...
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