22 May 2012 in National Assembly:
On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I respect your ruling, but I wanted to say that the new Minister for Local Government is holding a very important conference in Mombasa together with his deputy. I would like to request for a reprieve on that one.
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18 Apr 2012 in National Assembly:
Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, thank you very much for giving me this opportunity to talk about this very important Bill called the Land Bill.
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18 Apr 2012 in National Assembly:
Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I, first of all, want to say that I support this Bill fully. In fact, I had supported all the other Land Bills which were moved by my friend, hon. Orengo. I also want to congratulate the Minister for handling these very sensitive and crucial Bills and really steering them through. Whatever is left I know is going to be done properly and, definitely, for the benefit of this country.
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18 Apr 2012 in National Assembly:
Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, it is true that hon. Orengo and his team have done their best in trying to get the people of Kenya to understand these Bills and to understand the fact that land is so important to them that they must know what is happening in these Land Bills, especially in relation to the new Constitution. I want to really congratulate hon. James Orengo for taking time and for really doing his best together with the Committees of Parliament and many other professionals. That is why we have these Bills now, which I think are going ...
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18 Apr 2012 in National Assembly:
Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, I want to talk a little bit about community land. Community land under Article 63 of the Constitution is very clearly defined. I want the Minister to understand that community land is related to devolution. Devolution is the essence of this Constitution. This Constitution is really based on devolution and mostly in simple language and simple principles; devolution is so that the people on the ground - the lower groups down there - will be able to decide their own affairs and their own fate, as the case may be. Land is one of the ...
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18 Apr 2012 in National Assembly:
Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, I think it is very important to give those people the opportunity really to manage their own affairs seriously. That is so important. I have an example. We have had ADC farms. Those ADC farms were actually brought up by the Government of the day so that the people of Kenya - farmers of Kenya - can have breeding stock in livestock, sheep, pigs and even chicken but, Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, you know that very well. You know about this country just as much as I do. All those ADC farms were sold ...
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18 Apr 2012 in National Assembly:
We have an example and I am sure my friend, James Orengo, knows about it. There is a farm called Purko Sheep Ranch, where I was actually, particularly instrumental, when I was in the county council many years ago. I helped that farm so that we can have breeding stock for sheep. We gave it to the farmers so that they can develop their sheep and cattle. It is community land. We are still running it. But it would really help the Purko community to be able to change their livestock and sheep. Any group like that, with the direction ...
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18 Apr 2012 in National Assembly:
Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, I also want to say that some of these areas can actually help in many ways. I am the Minister of State for Natural Heritage and Culture. During the 1911 Agreement of the white men and the Maasai, which was the first agreement, which was actually never honoured by the British--- When they moved us there long time ago, they set the agreement- It is written in the 1911 Agreement that some 2,000 acres of a certain area which is presently, I think, Kinangop or Nyandarua or whatever it is--- I do not know what ...
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18 Apr 2012 in National Assembly:
Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, I want to say that when we were moved out of the Rift Valley, part of it, definitely, that area was set aside for ceremonies. But when the second settlement came through the trust funds, it was actually swallowed and allocated during the settlement trust fund and that area disappeared. We have no problem in getting some of these areas for ceremonies. In fact, we are beginning to say we can carve out some areas of the forests, so that this thing can become communal, and so that we can perform our cultural ceremonies there; ...
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18 Apr 2012 in National Assembly:
We also know very well, Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, that the local authorities have grabbed some of these lands. They have been pretending that it is trust land for the people but in the real sense, most of these lands have been grabbed; most of these lands have been sold to people who are not the right people. These are the areas that we want really separated, so that the communities can have them because of the communal benefits, the community itself and because of certain reasons like that the community will benefit; these can be protected. I think ...
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