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PARLIAMENT OF KENYA
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THE SENATE
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THE HANSARD
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Thursday, 14th February, 2019
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The House met at the Senate Chamber, Parliament Buildings, at 2.30 p.m.
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[The Speaker (Hon. Lusaka) in the Chair]
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PRAYER
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PAPERS LAID
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Hon. Lusaka
(The Speaker)
Senate Majority Leader, please proceed.
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Kipchumba Murkomen
(The Senate Majority Leader)
Mr. Speaker, Sir, I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table of the Senate, today Thursday,14th February, 2019-
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REPORTS OF THE CONTROLLER OF BUDGET ON THE NATIONAL GOVERNMENT BUDGET IMPLEMENTATION REVIEW FOR FY2018/2019
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The Report of the Controller of Budget on the National Government Budget Implementation Review for the First Quarter of the FY 2018/2019. The Report of the Controller of Budget on the County Governments Budget Implementation Review for the First Quarter of the FY 2018/2019.
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ANNUAL REPORTS OF VARIOUS COMMISSIONS
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The Annual Report of the National Police Service Commission for the Period 2017/2018. The Annual Report of the Teachers Service Commission for the Period 2017/2018. The Annual Report of the National Gender and Equality Commission for the Period 2016/2017.
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The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate.
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The Report of the Public Service Commission on the Evaluation on Public Service Compliance with the Values and Principles in Articles 10 and 232 of the Constitution for the Year 2017/2018.
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REPORTS ON THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS OF VARIOUS COUNTY FUNDS
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Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements of Nyamira County Assembly Car and Mortgage Loan Fund for the Year ended 30 June, 2015. Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements of Nyamira County Assembly Car and Mortgage Loan Fund for the Year ended 30 June, 2016. Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements of Nyamira County Assembly Car and Mortgage Loan Fund for the Year ended 30 June, 2017. Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements of Nyamira Executive Car and Mortgage Loan Fund for the Year ended 30 June, 2016. Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements of the Kajiado County Executive Staff Car and Mortgage Loan Fund for the Year ended 30 June, 2017. Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements of the Kajiado County Education Bursary Fund for the Year ended 30 June, 2017. Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements of the Kajiado County Disability Mainstreaming Fund for the Year ended 30 June, 2017. Report of the Auditor-General on the Financial Statements of the Kajiado County Roads Maintenance Levy Fund for the Year ended 30 June, 2017.
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Asante. (Sen. Murkomen laid the documents on the Table)
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Hon. Lusaka
(The Speaker)
Senate Majority Leader, you have more papers. You can approach me.
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(The Senate Majority Leader consulted the Speaker)
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Kipchumba Murkomen
(The Senate Majority Leader)
Mr. Speaker, Sir, I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table of the Senate, today Thursday,14th February, 2019-
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THE BUDGET POLICY STATEMENT, 2019
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The Budget Policy Statement, 2019.
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THE DRAFT DIVISION OF REVENUE, 2019
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The Draft Division of Revenue, 2019. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate.
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THE DRAFT COUNTY ALLOCATION OF REVENUE BILL, 2019
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The Draft County Allocation of Revenue Bill, 2019.
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THE MEDIUM TERM DEBT MANAGEMENT STRATEGY, 2019
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The Medium Term Debt Management Strategy, 2019. Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir.
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(Sen. Murkomen laid the documents on the Table)
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COMMUNICATION FROM THE SPEAKER
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PROCESSING OF THE BUDGET POLICY STATEMENT, 2019
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Hon. Lusaka
(The Speaker)
Order, Senators. I have a Communication to make. As you may be aware, Section 25 of the Public Finance Management Act requires the National Treasury to prepare and submit the Budget Policy Statement to Parliament by the 15th February each year. In this regard, by a letter Reference Number Conf/MOF83/02TY.5/(86) dated 14th February, 2019 and received in the Office of the Clerk on 14th February, 2019, the Principal Secretary for the National Treasury submitted the following documents for consideration and approval by Parliament- (a) The Budget Policy Statement, 2019; (b) The Medium Term Debt Management Strategy, 2019; (c) The Draft Division of Revenue Bill, 2019; and, (d) The Draft County Allocation of Revenue Bill, 2019. Consequently, Hon. Senators, I will allow the Chairperson of the Standing Committee on Finance, Commerce and Budget to formally table these documents. Hon. Senators, the Budget Policy Statement is an important tool as it sets out the broad strategic priorities and policy goals that will guide the national Government and county governments in preparing their budgets both for the following Financial Year and over the medium term. It contains, among other things- (i) an assessment of the current state of the economy and the financial outlook over the medium term, including the macro-economic forecasts; (ii) the financial outlook with respect to Government revenues, expenditures and borrowing for the next financial year and over the medium term; (iii) the proposed expenditure limits for the national government, including those of Parliament and the Judiciary, and indicative transfers to county governments; and (iv) the fiscal responsibility principles and financial objectives over the medium term, including limits on total annual debt. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate.
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Hon. Lusaka
(The Speaker)
In a nutshell, it means that any proposal that Senators have regarding the Division of Revenue Bill and the County Allocation of Revenue Bill, including funds for conditional allocations to the counties should be canvassed and forwarded to the National Treasury for possible factoring in the Budget Policy Statement, failure to which it will be difficult for changes to be accommodated later. Hon. Senators, Section 25(7) of the Public Finance Management Act provides as follows- “Parliament shall, not later than fourteen days after the Budget Policy Statement is submitted to Parliament, table and discuss a report containing its recommendations and pass a resolution to adopt it with or without amendments.” Based on the importance of the Budget Policy Statement and the above timelines, I direct that once tabled, the Budget Policy Statement be considered by all Standing Committees, each concentrating on its mandate. The Standing Committees will then forward their recommendations to the Standing Committee on Finance, Commerce and Budget for consolidation and tabling of the report not later than Tuesday, 26th February, 2019. The Senate should then debate and conclude the report by Thursday, 28th February, 2019. Please note that pursuant to Section 25(8) of the Public Finance Management Act, the Cabinet Secretary of the National Treasury is expected to take into account resolutions passed by Parliament in finalizing the budget for the relevant Financial Year. Hon. Senators, I therefore urge you all to prioritize the scrutiny of the Budget Policy Statement, taking into consideration our most important function of safeguarding devolution. I thank you.
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Hon. Lusaka
(The Speaker)
Order, Hon. Senators! I would like to inform the House that the documents had already been tabled by the Senate Majority Leader. However, note that the date for submitting the report has been changed to Tuesday, 26th February and not Wednesday, as had been communicated earlier.
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Hon. Lusaka
(The Speaker)
Let us move on to the next Order.
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NOTICE OF MOTION
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REPORT OF THE AD-HOC COMMITTEE ON THE MAIZE CRISIS IN KENYA
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Margaret Kamar
Mr. Speaker, Sir, I beg to give notice of the following Motion- THAT, this House adopts The Report of the Ad-hoc Committee on the Maize crisis in Kenya laid on the Table of the House on Tuesday, 27th November, 2018.
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Margaret Kamar
The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate.
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COMMUNICATION FROM THE CHAIR
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REORGANIZATION OF BUSINESS ON THE ORDER PAPER
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Hon. Lusaka
(The Speaker)
Hon. Senators, for the convenience of the Senate, we shall re-arrange the sequence of our business. Therefore, we shall proceed first with Order Nos.10 to 14 and thereafter proceed with the rest of the business in the order in which it appears on the Order Paper.
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Hon. Lusaka
(The Speaker)
Next Order.
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COMMITTEE OF THEWHOLE
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(Order for Committee read)
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[The Speaker (Hon. Lusaka) left the Chair]
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IN THE COMMITTEE
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[The Temporary Chairperson (Sen. (Prof. Kamar) in the Chair]
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THE PETROLEUM BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO.48 OF 2017)
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(Resumption of Debate interrupted on 13.2.2019)
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The Temporary Speaker
(Sen. (Prof.) Kamar): Order, Hon. Members. We want to start. We are ready to begin with The Petroleum Bill (National Assembly Bills No.48). The amendments will be led by Sen. Olekina. We had reached new Clause 13A. We proceed to new Clause 13B. Sen. Olekina, proceed.
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New Clause 13A
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Ledama Olekina
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT the Bill be amended by inserting the following new clauses immediately after clause 13 –
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Ledama Olekina
Establishment of the 13A. (1) There is established the Petroleum Regulatory Petroleum Regulatory Authority. Authority. (2) The Authority is a body corporate with perpetual succession and a common seal and shall be capable of— (a) suing and being sued; The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate.
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Ledama Olekina
(b) taking, purchasing or otherwise acquiring, holding, charging or disposing of movable and immovable property; (c) borrowing and lending money; and (d) doing or performing all other things or acts for the furtherance of the provisions of the Act which may be lawfully done or performed by a body corporate. (3) Except as otherwise provided in this Act, the Authority shall be independent in the performance of its functions and exercise of its powers and shall not be subject to the direction or control of any person or authority.
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Sam Ongeri
I second.
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(Question of the New Clause 13A proposed)
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(New Clause 13A Read the First Time)
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(Question, that the New Clause 13A be read a Second Time, proposed)
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(Question, that the New Clause 13A be part of the Bill proposed)
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The Temporary Chairperson
(Sen. (Prof.) Kamar): Hon. Members, the Division will be done at the end.
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New Clause 13B
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The Temporary Chairperson
(Sen. (Prof.) Kamar): Mover, proceed.
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Ledama Olekina
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT the Bill be amended by inserting the following new clauses immediately after clause 13 –
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Ledama Olekina
Functions of the
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13B.
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The functions of the Authority shall be to— Authority. (a) regulate, monitor and supervise petroleum operations in Kenya in accordance with this Act, the regulations made thereunder and the relevant petroleum agreement; (b) provide such information and statistics in relation to petroleum operations in Kenya to the Cabinet Secretary as may be required from time to time; (c) regulate the importation, refining, exportation, transportation, storage and sale of petroleum and The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate.
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petroleum products with the exception of crude oil; (d) collect, maintain and manage petroleum data; (e) receive and review an application for a non-exclusive exploration and where it is satisfied that it is warranted, grant a non-exclusive exploration permit; (f) co-ordinate the development of petroleum infrastructure and promote capacity building in upstream petroleum operations; (g) enter any area, structure, vehicle, vessel, aircraft or building that has been, is being or is to be used in connection to upstream petroleum operations; (h) inspect and test any machinery or equipment that has been used, is used or shall be used in upstream petroleum operations; (i) take or remove, for analysis, testing or for use in evidence in connection with the commission of an offence under this Act, samples of petroleum or other substances from any area where any upstream petroleum operations are being carried on; (j) inspect, take extracts from, or make copies of any document relating to any petroleum operations; (k) assess field development plans and make recommendations to the Cabinet Secretary for approval, amendment or rejection of the plans; (l) assess tail-end production and cessation of upstream petroleum operations and oversee decommissioning by a contractor; (m) verify the measurements of petroleum production to allow for estimation and assessment of royalties and profits of oil and gas due to the National Government; (n) verify the recoverable cost of oil and gas due to the parties to a petroleum agreement; (o) audit contractors for cost recovery; (p) monitor in consultation with the Competition Authority established under the Competition Act conditions of contractors’ operations and their trade practices to ensure that competition and fair practice is maintained; (q) provide information to the relevant authority for the collection of taxes and fees from upstream petroleum operations; (r) set, review and approve contracts, tariffs and charges for common user upstream petroleum facilities; The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate.
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(s) make proposals to the Cabinet Secretary in relation to regulations which may be necessary or expedient for the regulation of the petroleum sector or for carrying out the objects and purposes of this Act; (t) work with the relevant statutory authorities to formulate, enforce and review environmental, health, safety and quality standards for the petroleum sector; (u) develop guidelines, in consultation with other statutory authorities, in relation to the implementation of treaties, conventions or protocols affecting the upstream petroleum sector that have been ratified by Kenya; (v) regulate contracts on upstream petroleum operations not specifically provided for under this Act; (w) advice the Cabinet Secretary in the evaluation of the bids and applications made for upstream petroleum blocks; and (x) perform any other function that may be conferred on it under this Act.
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Sam Ongeri
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I second.
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(Question of the New Clause 13B proposed)
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(New Clause 13B read the First Time)
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(Question, that the New Clause 13B be read a Second Time, proposed)
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(Question, that the New Clause 13B be part of the Bill proposed)
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The Temporary Chairperson
(Sen. (Prof.) Kamar): Hon. Senators, Division will come at the end.
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New Clause 13C
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The Temporary Chairperson
(Sen. (Prof.) Kamar): Mover.
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Ledama Olekina
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move-
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Ledama Olekina
THAT the Bill be amended by inserting the following new Clause immediately after Clause 13 –
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Ledama Olekina
Powers of the Authority. 13C. (1) The Authority shall have all powers necessary or The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate.
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expedient for the performance of its functions under this Act and in particular, the Authority shall have the power to— (a) ensure that contractors uphold the relevant laws, regulations and petroleum agreement terms; (b) ensure optimal levels of recovery of petroleum resources; (c) promote well planned, executed and cost-efficient operations; (d) ensure optimal utilization of existing and planned facilities; (e) ensure the establishment of a central database of persons involved in upstream petroleum operations; (f) manage upstream petroleum data and provide periodic updates and publication of the status of upstream petroleum operations (g) take such action as is necessary to enforce the requirements in a petroleum agreement or any regulations and to protect the environment, the health and safety of workers and the public; (h) ensure and facilitate competition, access and utilization of facilities by third parties; (i) prescribe the form and manner in which any application for any authority, consent or approval under this Act shall be made; (j) investigate complaints or disputes arising from upstream petroleum operations; (k) enter, inspect and search any premises at which any undertaking is carried out or an offence under this Act is being committed or is suspected to have been committed; (l) issue orders either requiring acts or things to be performed or done, prohibiting acts or things from being performed or done, and may prescribe periods or dates upon, within or before which such acts or things shall be performed or done or such conditions shall be fulfilled in furtherance of its powers under this Act; (m) impose such sanctions and civil fines not exceeding five hundred thousand shillings per violation per day, as may be prescribed in regulations to secure compliance with orders issued under this Act; (n) enforce local content requirements; (o) issue operational permits and non-exclusive exploration The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate.
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permits in accordance with this Act; and (p) ensure enforcement and compliance with the national values and principles. (2) The Director Public Prosecutions may, on the request of the Authority, appoint any officer of the Authority or an advocate of the High Court to be a public prosecutor for the purposes of prosecuting offences under this Act.
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Mohamed Faki Mwinyihaji
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I second.
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(Question of the New Clause 13C proposed)
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(New Clause 13C Read the First Time)
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(Question, that the New Clause 13C be read a Second Time, proposed)
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(Question, that the New Clause 13C be part of the Bill proposed)
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The Temporary Chairperson
(Sen. (Prof.) Kamar): Hon. Senators, Division will come at the end.
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New Clause 13D
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Ledama Olekina
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT the Bill be amended by inserting the following new clauses immediately after Clause 13- Board of Directors of the Authority.
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13D.
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(1) The management of the Authority shall vest in a Board of Directors which shall consist of— (a) a chairperson appointed by the President; (b) the Principal Secretary in the Ministry for the time being responsible for petroleum or his or her authorized representative; (c) the Principal Secretary in the National Treasury or his or her authorized representative; (d) three county executive committee members responsible for petroleum nominated by the Council of County Governors; (e) the Director-General appointed under section 23 of this Act; and (f) one person shall be nominated by the Kenya Private Sector Alliance appointed by the Cabinet Secretary; The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate.
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(g) one person with knowledge and experience in matters relating to petroleum and serving in an institution of higher education appointed by the Cabinet Secretary. (2) A person shall be qualified for appointment as a chairperson under subsection (1)(a) or a member under subsection (1)(f) and (g) if that person— (a) is a citizen of Kenya; (b) holds a degree from a university recognized in Kenya in any of the following fields— (i) engineering; (ii) physical sciences; (iii) law; (iv) finance; (v) economics; or (vi) energy; (vii) any other relevant degree. (c) has had at least seven years relevant professional and managerial experience; (d) is a member in good standing of the relevant professional association; and (e) meets the requirements set out in Chapter Six of the Constitution. Madam Temporary Chairperson, I ask Sen. Faki to second.
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Mohamed Faki Mwinyihaji
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I second.
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(Question of the New Clause 13D proposed)
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(New Clause 13D read a First Time)
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(Question, that New Clause 13D be read a Second Time proposed)
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(Question, that New Clause 13D be part of the Bill proposed)
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The Temporary Chairperson
(Sen. (Prof.) Kamar): Division will be at the end.
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New Clause 13E
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Ledama Olekina
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate.
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Ledama Olekina
THAT the Bill be amended by inserting the following new clause immediately after Clause 13- Terms of office of the chairperson and members of the Board.
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13E.
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(1) The chairperson of the Board of the Authority shall be appointed for a term of four years and shall be eligible for re-appointment for one further term. (2) A member of the Board appointed under section 13D(1)(f) and (g) shall hold office for period of three years and shall be eligible for re-appointment for one further term. (3) The chairperson and members of the Board shall be appointed at different times so that the respective expiry dates of their terms of office shall fall at different times. (4) The chairperson and the members appointed in accordance with section 13D(1)(f) and (g) who shall be appointed immediately upon the coming into force of this Act shall be appointed for such shorter terms than prescribed in subsection (1) or subsection (2) so their tenures do not end on the same date. Madam Temporary Chairperson, I ask Sen. Ochillo-Ayacko to second.
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Ochilo George Mbogo Ayacko
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to second.
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(Question of the New Clause 13E proposed)
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(New Clause 13E read a First Time)
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(Question, that New Clause 13E be read a Second Time proposed)
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(Question, that New Clause 13E be part of the Bill proposed)
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The Temporary Chairperson
(Sen. (Prof.) Kamar): Division will be at the end.
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New Clause 13F
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Ledama Olekina
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT the Bill be amended by inserting the following new clause immediately after Clause 13- The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate.
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Ledama Olekina
Gender, regional and ethnic balance.
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13F.
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In the composition of the Board of Directors, no more than two-thirds of the members shall be of one gender and the Board shall also reflect the regional and ethnic diversity of Kenya. Madam Temporary Chairperson, I ask Sen. (Dr.) Musuruve to second.
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Getrude Musuruve Inimah
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to second.
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(Question of the New Clause 13F proposed)
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(New Clause 13F read a First Time)
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(Question that New Clause 13F be read a Second Time proposed)
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Question, that New Clause 13F be part of the Bill proposed)
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The Temporary Chairperson
(Sen. (Prof.) Kamar): Division will be at the end.
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New Clause 13G
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Ledama Olekina
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move:- THAT the Bill be amended by inserting the following new clause immediately after Clause 13-
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Ledama Olekina
Conduct of business of the Board.
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13G.
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(1) The conduct and regulation of the business of the Board shall be as provided in the First Schedule of this Act. (2) Subject to the provisions of the First Schedule, the Board shall regulate its own procedure. Madam Temporary Chairperson, I ask Sen. Omogeni to second.
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Erick Okong'o Mogeni
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to second.
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(Question of the New Clause 13G proposed)
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(New Clause 13G read a First Time)
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(Question that New Clause 13G be read a Second Time proposed)
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Erick Okong'o Mogeni
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Question, that New Clause 13G be part of the Bill proposed)
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The Temporary Chairperson
(Sen. (Prof.) Kamar): Division will be at the end.
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New Clause 13H
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Ledama Olekina
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move:- THAT the Bill be amended by inserting the following new clauses immediately after clause 13- Vacancies in the Board.
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13H.
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(1) The office of the chairperson or a member of the Board of Directors, as the case may be, shall become vacant if the holder— (a) dies; (b) by notice in writing addressed to the President or the Cabinet Secretary, as the case may be, resigns from office; or (c) is removed from office under any of the circumstances contemplated in section 13I. (2) The President or the Cabinet Secretary, as the case may be, shall notify every resignation, vacancy or termination in the Gazette within fourteen days. Madam Temporary Chairperson, I ask Sen. Outa to second.
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Fredrick Otieno Outa
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I second.
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(Question of the New Clause 13H proposed)
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(New Clause 13H read a First Time)
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(Question that New Clause 13H be read a Second Time proposed)
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Question, that New Clause 13H be part of the Bill proposed)
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The Temporary Chairperson
(Sen. (Prof.) Kamar): Division will be at the end.
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New Clause 13I
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Ledama Olekina
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate.
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Ledama Olekina
THAT the Bill be amended by inserting the following new clause immediately after clause 13- Removal of chairperson or a member of the Board.
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13I.
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A chairperson or a member appointed under section 13D(1)(f) and (g) may be removed from office for— (a) any violation of the Constitution or any other law; (b) gross misconduct, whether in the performance of the chairperson’s or member’s, as the case may be, functions or otherwise; (c) physical or mental incapacity to perform the functions of the office; (d) being absent from three consecutive meetings of Board without reasonable cause; (e) a failure to disclose to the Board of Directors any interest in any contract or matter before the Board; (f) being convicted of a criminal offence; (g) incompetence; or (h) bankruptcy. Madam Temporary Chairperson, I ask Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr. to second.
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Mutula Kilonzo Jnr
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to second.
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(Question of the New Clause 13I proposed)
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(New Clause 13I read a First Time)
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(Question that New Clause 13I be read a Second Time proposed)
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Question, that New Clause 13I be part of the Bill proposed)
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The Temporary Chairperson
(Sen. (Prof.) Kamar): Division will be at the end.
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New Clause 13J
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Ledama Olekina
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move:- THAT the Bill be amended by inserting the following new clause immediately after Clause 13- Director- The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate.
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Ledama Olekina
General.
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13J.
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(1) The Cabinet Secretary shall, on the recommendation of the Board of Directors, appoint a Director-General who shall be the chief executive of the Authority and shall, subject to the directions of the Board, be responsible for the day to day management of the Authority. (2) The Cabinet Secretary shall appoint the Director-General from a list of three names of persons submitted by the Board of Directors after a competitive selection process. (3) A person shall be qualified for appointment as the Director- General if such person— (a) is a citizen of Kenya; (b) holds a degree from a university recognized in Kenya in the fields of— (i) petroleum geosciences; (ii) petroleum engineering; (iii) petroleum economics; (iv) finance; or (v) petroleum law. (c) has at least seven years relevant professional experience; (d) is a member in good standing of the relevance professional association: and (e) meets the requirements set out in Chapter Six of the Constitution. (4) The Director-General shall hold office for a term of three years and shall be eligible for reappointment for one further term of three years. (5) The Director-General shall be the secretary to the Board of Directors but shall have no right to vote at any meetings of the Board of Directors. Madam Temporary Chairperson, I ask Sen. Madzayo to second.
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Stewart Mwachiru Shadrack Madzayo
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to second.
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(Question of the New Clause 13J proposed)
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(New Clause 13J read a First Time)
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(Question that New Clause 13 J be read a Second Time proposed)
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Question, that New Clause 13J be part of the Bill proposed)
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Stewart Mwachiru Shadrack Madzayo
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The Temporary Chairperson
(Sen. (Prof.) Kamar): Division will be at the end.
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New Clause 13K
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Ledama Olekina
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT the Bill be amended by inserting the following new clause immediately after Clause 13-
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Ledama Olekina
Removal from office of Director- General.
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13K.
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(1) The Cabinet Secretary may remove the Director-General from office in accordance with the terms and conditions of service only for— (a) inability to perform the functions of office due to physical or mental incapacity; (b) gross misconduct or misbehaviour; (c) incompetence or neglect of duty; (d) violation of the Constitution or any other law; (e) bankruptcy; or (f) any other ground that would justify removal from office under the terms and conditions of service. (2) Before the Cabinet Secretary removes the Director General from office, the Director-General shall be given— (a) sufficient notice of the allegations made against him or her to the Authority; and (b) an opportunity to present his defence against the allegations. Madam Temporary Chairperson, I ask Sen. Madzayo to second.
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Stewart Mwachiru Shadrack Madzayo
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I second.
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(Question of the New Clause 13K proposed)
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(New Clause 13K read a First Time)
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(Question that New Clause 13 K be read a Second Time proposed)
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Question, that New Clause 13K be part of the Bill proposed)
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Stewart Mwachiru Shadrack Madzayo
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The Temporary Chairperson
(Sen. (Prof.) Kamar): Division will be at the end.
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New Clause 13L
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Ledama Olekina
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT the Bill be amended by inserting the following new clause immediately after Clause 13- Staff of the Authority.
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13L.
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The Authority may, in consultation with the Public Service Commission, appoint such staff as it may require for the proper discharge of the functions of the Authority under this Act, and on such terms and conditions of service as the Board, on the recommendation of the Salaries and Remuneration Commission, may determine.
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Madam Temporary Chairperson, I ask Sen. Were to second.
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Petronila Were Lokorio
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to second.
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(Question of the New Clause 13L proposed)
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(New Clause 13L read a First Time)
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(Question, that New Clause 13L be read a Second Time proposed)
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Question, that New Clause 13L be part of the Bill proposed)
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The Temporary Chairperson
(Sen. (Prof.) Kamar): Division will be at the end.
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New Clause 13M
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Ledama Olekina
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT the Bill be amended by inserting the following new clause immediately after Clause 13- Remuneration of the members of the Board.
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13M.
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The Authority shall pay its members such remuneration, fees or allowances for expenses as may be determined by the Salaries and Remuneration Commission.
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Madam Temporary Chairperson, I ask Sen. Were to second.
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Petronila Were Lokorio
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I second.
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(Question of the New Clause 13M proposed)
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(New Clause 13M read a First Time)
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(Question that New Clause 13M be read a Second Time proposed)
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Question, that New Clause 13M be part of the Bill proposed)
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The Temporary Chairperson
(Sen. (Prof.) Kamar): Division will be at the end.
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New Clause 13N
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Ledama Olekina
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT the Bill be amended by inserting the following new clause immediately after Clause 13- Protection from personal liability.
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13N.
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(1) Any matter or thing done by a member of the Board or any officer, employee or agent of the Authority shall not, if the matter or thing is done bona fide for executing the functions, powers or duties of the Authority, render the member, officer, employee, agent or any other person acting on those directions personally liable to any action, claim or demand whatsoever. (2) The provisions of subsection (1) shall not relieve the Authority of the liability to pay compensation or damages to any person for an injury to that person, that person’s property or any of the persons’ interests caused by the exercise of the powers conferred on the Board by this Act or by any other written law or by the failure, whether wholly or partially, of any works. Madam Temporary Chairperson, I ask Sen. Were to second.
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Petronila Were Lokorio
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to second.
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(Question of the New Clause 13N proposed)
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(New Clause 13N read a First Time)
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(Question that New Clause 13N be read a Second Time proposed)
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Petronila Were Lokorio
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Question, that New Clause 13N be part of the Bill proposed)
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The Temporary Chairperson
(Sen. (Prof.) Kamar): Division will be at the end.
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New Clause 13O
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Ledama Olekina
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT the Bill be amended by inserting the following new clause immediately after Clause 13-
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Ledama Olekina
Funds of The Authority.
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13O.
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(1) The funds of the Authority shall consist of— (a) such moneys as may, from time to time, be appropriated by the National Assembly for that purpose; (b) levies, not exceeding one half of a percent on the sales of petroleum products; (c) such other moneys or assets as may accrue to or vest in the Authority in the exercise of its powers or the performance of its functions under the Act; (d) any revenues generated from any proprietary interest held by the Authority whether movable or immovable; (e) interest from bank deposits; and (f) any revenue from other sources including loans, grants, gifts, or donations approved by the Cabinet Secretary. (2) All revenues generated by the Authority including levies shall be paid into the Consolidated Fund. (3) Any funds retained by the Authority shall make part of the funds of the Authority by way of appropriation. (4) Penalties are excluded from the funds of the Authority. (5) The Cabinet Secretary responsible for matters relating to petroleum may make Regulations to provide for a levy prescribing— (a) the amount in Kenya Shillings payable per cubic metre of crude oil; (b) the amount of Kenya Shillings payable per one thousand cubic metre of marketable natural gas; (c) when the relevant levy may be applied; and any other requirements for implementation of the levy. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate.
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(6) There shall be paid out of the funds of the Authority, all expenditure incurred by the Authority in the exercise of its powers or the performance of its functions under this Act. Madam Temporary Chairperson, I ask Sen. (Dr.) Musuruve to second.
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Getrude Musuruve Inimah
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to second.
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(Question of the New Clause 13O proposed)
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(New Clause 13O read a First Time)
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(Question, that New Clause 13O be read a Second Time proposed)
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Question, that New Clause 13O be part of the Bill proposed)
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The Temporary Chairperson
(Sen. (Prof.) Kamar): Division will be at the end.
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New Clause 13P
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Ledama Olekina
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT the Bill be amended by inserting the following new clause immediately after clause 13-
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Ledama Olekina
Investment of funds of the Authority.
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13P.
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(1) The Authority may invest its funds in any securities which for the time being trustees may by law invest in trust funds, or in any other securities which the Cabinet Secretary may, from time to time, approve for that purpose. (2) The Authority may place on deposit with such a bank as it may determine, any moneys not immediately required for the purposes of the Authority. Madam Temporary Chairperson, I ask Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr. to second.
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Mutula Kilonzo Jnr
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I second.
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(Question of the New Clause 13P proposed)
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(New Clause 13P read a First Time)
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(Question that New Clause 13P be read a
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Mutula Kilonzo Jnr
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Second Time proposed)
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Question, that New Clause 13P be part of the Bill proposed)
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The Temporary Chairperson
(Sen. (Prof.) Kamar): Division will be at the end.
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New Clause 13Q
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Ledama Olekina
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT the Bill be amended by inserting the following new clause immediately after clause 13- Financial year.
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13Q.
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The financial year of the Authority shall be the period of twelve months ending on the thirtieth June in each year. Madam Temporary Chairperson, I ask Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr. to second.
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Mutula Kilonzo Jnr
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I second.
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(Question of the New Clause 13Q proposed)
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(New Clause 13Q read a First Time)
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(Question that New Clause 13Q be read a Second Time proposed)
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Question, that New Clause 13Q be part of the Bill proposed)
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The Temporary Chairperson
(Sen. (Prof.) Kamar): Division will be at the end.
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New Clause 13R
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Ledama Olekina
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT the Bill be amended by inserting the following new clause immediately after clause 13- Annual estimates.
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13R.
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(1) At least three months before the commencement of each financial year, the Board shall cause to be prepared estimates of the revenue and expenditure of the Authority for that year. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate.
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(2) The annual estimates shall make provision for all estimated expenditure of the Authority for the financial year concerned. (3) The annual estimates shall be approved by the Board before the commencement of the financial year to which they relate and shall be submitted to the Cabinet Secretary for approval. Madam Temporary Chairperson, I ask Sen. Were to second.
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Petronila Were Lokorio
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I second.
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(Question of the New Clause 13R proposed)
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(New Clause 13R read a First Time)
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(Question that New Clause 13R be read a Second Time proposed)
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Question, that New Clause 13R be part of the Bill proposed)
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The Temporary Chairperson
(Sen. (Prof.) Kamar): Division will be at the end.
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New Clause 13S
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Ledama Olekina
Madam Chairperson, I beg to move that the Bill be amended by inserting the following new clause immediately after Clause 13-
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Ledama Olekina
Annual Report
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13S.
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The Board shall, within a period of three months after the end of each financial year, submit - (a) to the Auditor-General, the accounts of the Authority in respect of that year together with — (i) a statement of the income and expenditure of the Authority during that year; and (ii) a statement of the assets and liabilities of the Authority on the last day of that financial year; and (b) to the Cabinet Secretary, an annual report in respect of that year containing- (i) the accounts of the Authority and statements referred to under paragraph (a); (ii) the Authority’s performance indicators and any other related information; The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate.
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(iii) a report on the operations of the Authority during that year; and (iv) such other information as the Cabinet Secretary may request.
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Ledama Olekina
I request Sen. Pareno to second.
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Judith Ramaita Pareno
seconded.
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(Question of the New Clause 13S proposed)
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(New Clause 13S read a First Time)
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(Question that New Clause 13S be read a second time proposed).
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Question, that New Clause 13S be part of the Bill proposed)
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The Temporary Chairperson
(Sen. (Prof.) Kamar): Division will be at the end.
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New Clause 13T
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Ledama Olekina
Madam Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT the Bill be amended by inserting the following new clause immediately after Clause 13- Accounts and Audit
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13T.
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(1) The Authority shall keep or cause to be kept proper books of account in which shall be recorded all the income and liabilities, expenditure, assets, undertakings, funds, activities, contracts, transactions and any other business of the Authority. (2) The Authority shall ensure that all moneys received are properly brought to account, all payments out of its funds are properly made and authorized and that adequate control is maintained over its assets and liabilities in accordance with this Act and any other written law. (3) Within a period of three months after the end of each financial year, the Authority shall prepare annual financial statements in accordance with the provisions of section 81 of the Public Finance Management Act, and submit them to the Auditor- General or to an auditor appointed under subsection (4), for audit. (4) Within a period of six months after the end of the financial year, the Auditor-General shall report on the examination and audit of the accounts of the Authority, to the Authority and to the Cabinet Secretary, and in the case of an auditor appointed in accordance with Section 81 of the Public Finance Management Act, the auditor shall submit a copy of the report to The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate.
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the Auditor-General and the Auditor- General shall submit the report to the Authority and Cabinet Secretary. (5) Notwithstanding anything in this Act, the Auditor-General may submit to the Cabinet Secretary a special report on any matter incidental to his powers under this Act, and the provisions of the Public Finance Management Act, on the same issue shall apply with the necessary modifications to any report made under this section. (6) The fee for an auditor, other than the Auditor-General, appointed under section 81 of the Public Finance Management Act, not being a public officer, shall be determined and paid by the Authority. (7) The Authority shall prepare the financial statements in a form that complies with the Public Finance Management Act.
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Ledama Olekina
I request Sen. (Dr.) Musuruve to second.
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Getrude Musuruve Inimah
seconded.
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(Question of the New Clause 13T proposed)
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(New Clause 13T read a First Time)
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(Question that New Clause 13T be read a second time proposed).
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Question, that New Clause 13T be part of the Bill proposed)
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The Temporary Chairperson
(Sen. (Prof.) Kamar): Division will be at the end.
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New Clause 13U
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Ledama Olekina
, I beg to move- THAT the Bill be amended by inserting the following new clause immediately after Clause 13-
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Ledama Olekina
Delegation of powers or functions to committees or agents
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13U.
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(1) The Authority may, by resolution either generally or in any particular case, delegate to any committee of the Authority or to any member, officer, employee or agent of the Authority, the exercise of any of its powers or the performance of any of its functions or duties in accordance with this Act. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate.
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(2) A committee, officer, employee or agent of the Authority shall be appointed in writing and the instrument of appointment shall set out the term of the appointment, the duties of the appointee, the appointee’s reporting requirements, functions, authority and powers conferred on the appointee. (3) Any instrument issued by the Authority under subsection (2) may be varied or revoked by the Authority at any time. (4) The Authority shall pay such allowances and fees to the members of such committees or such officers, employees or agents as the Salaries and Remuneration Commission may recommend. Powers of committees or agents.
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Ledama Olekina
I request Sen. (Dr.) Musuruve to second.
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Getrude Musuruve Inimah
seconded.
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(Question of the New Clause 13U proposed)
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(New Clause 13U read a First Time)
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(Question that New Clause 13U be read a Second Time proposed)
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Question, that New Clause 13U be part of the Bill proposed)
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The Temporary Chairperson
(Sen. (Prof.) Kamar): Division will be at the end.
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New Clause 13 V
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Ledama Olekina
Madam Chairperson, I beg to move-
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Ledama Olekina
THAT the Bill be amended by inserting the following new clause immediately after Clause 13-
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(1) A committee, member, officer, employee or agent appointed under section 13U may, upon production of evidence of appointment to any person reasonably requiring it, for the purposes of this Act— (a) enter upon any premises at which any undertaking is carried out in relation to upstream petroleum operations or an offence under this Act is or is suspected to have been committed; (b) inspect and test any process, installation, works or other operation in relation to upstream petroleum operations which is or appears likely to be carried out in those premises; The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate.
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(c) be accompanied by a police officer if there is a reason to believe that any serious obstruction may occur in relation to an inspection or inquiry under this section; (d) require from any person the production of any book, notice, record, list or other document which appears to the committee, officer, employee or agent to have relevance to the inspection or inquiry, which is in the possession or custody or under the control of that person or of any other person on that committee’s or agent’s behalf; (e) examine and copy any part of any book, notice, record, list or other document which appears to have relevance to the inspections or inquiry, and require any person to give an explanation of any entry therein, and take possession of any such book, notice, record, list or other document as he believes may afford evidence of an offence under this Act; (f) require information relevant to the committee, officer, employee or agents’ inspection or inquiry from any person whom the committee, officer, employee or agent has reasonable grounds to believe is or has been employed at any such premises or to have in that person’s possession or custody or under the person’s control any article referred to in this subsection; or (g) exercise such other powers as may be necessary in connection with the inspection or inquiry and other powers of his appointment under section 13U. (2) A member of a committee of the Authority, officer, employee or agent entering upon any premises under this section may be accompanied by such persons and may enter with such equipment as may be necessary. (3) Where— (a) the premises to which this section relates are unoccupied; (b) the owner, occupier or person in charge thereof is temporarily absent; or (c) entry thereon is refused or obstructed, the member of the committee, officer, employee or agent may use such force as is reasonably necessary to effect entry: Provided that in the case of an entry under paragraph (a) or (b)— (i) reasonable steps shall be taken prior to entry by the member of the committee, officer, employee or agent to find the owner, occupier or person in charge of the premises to be entered; and (ii) the premises shall be left by the member of the committee, officer, employee or agent as effectively secured against trespassers as they were found. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate.
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(4) Where it is suspected that an undertaking is being carried contrary to any licence, permit or regulations issued under this Act, an officer or agent of the Authority may, in the course of his or her duty, lock up, seal, mark or otherwise secure— (a) any building, room, place, receptacle or item of plant; (b) any goods or materials in a factory; and (c) aircraft, vessels, vehicles or containers. (5) A person who, unless authorized by the Authority or any other competent authority, opens, breaks, alters or in any way interferes with a lock, seal, mark or other fastening placed by a member of a committee, officer, employee or agent in accordance with this section on any building, room, place, receptacle, item of plant, goods, or materials, commits an offence and shall, on conviction, be liable to a fine not exceeding one million shillings or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years or to both . (6) A person who resists, hinders or obstructs any committee, officer, employee or agent acting in the course of the committee’s or agent’s duty under this section or who wilfully fails to comply with any requirements lawfully made thereunder commits an offence and shall, on conviction, be liable to a fine not exceeding one hundred thousand shillings for each day or part thereof that the obstruction occurs. How Authority shall exercise its powers and functions.
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Ledama Olekina
I request Sen. Outa to second.
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Fredrick Otieno Outa
seconded.
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(Question of the New Clause 13V proposed)
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(New Clause 13V read a First Time)
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(Question, that New Clause 13V be read a Second Time proposed)
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Question, that New Clause 13V be part of the Bill proposed)
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The Temporary Chairperson
(Sen. (Prof.) Kamar): Division will be at the end.
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New Clause 13W
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Ledama Olekina
Madam Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT the Bill be amended by inserting the following new clause immediately after Clause 13- The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate.
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13W.
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The Authority shall, in the exercise of its powers and performance of its functions— (a) promote efficiency, economy and safety in the conduct of upstream petroleum operations; (b) ensure that contractors carry out the upstream petroleum operations for which they are licensed to perform; (c) promote competition in upstream petroleum operations to ensure the optimal performance of industry players; (d) advocate and ensure transparency between upstream petroleum industry and the Authority; (e) ensure fair balance in the interests of the National Government and other stakeholders in the upstream petroleum industry; and ensure full compliance of the petroleum agreement by all parties to the agreement.
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Ledama Olekina
I request Sen. (Dr.) Zani to second.
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Agnes Zani
seconded.
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(Question of the New Clause 13W proposed)
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(New Clause 13W read a First Time)
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(Question that New Clause 13W be read a Second Time proposed)
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Question, that New Clause 13W be part of the Bill proposed)
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The Temporary Chairperson
(Sen. (Prof.) Kamar): Division will be at the end.
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New Clause 13 X
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Ledama Olekina
Madam Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT the Bill be amended by inserting the following new clause immediately after Clause 13- 1
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The Authority shall, to the greatest extent possible and in accordance with this Act, consult and co-operate with other ministries, departments and agencies of the National Government in promoting effective upstream petroleum operations National Data Centre.
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Ledama Olekina
I request Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr. to second.
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Mutula Kilonzo Jnr
seconded.
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(Question of the New Clause 13X proposed)
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Mutula Kilonzo Jnr
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(New Clause 13X read a First Time)
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(Question that New Clause 13X be read a Second Time proposed)
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Question, that New Clause 13X be part of the Bill proposed)
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The Temporary Chairperson
(Sen. (Prof.) Kamar): Division will be at the end.
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New Clause 13 Y
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Ledama Olekina
Madam Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT the Bill be amended by inserting the following new clause immediately after Clause 13- National Data Centre
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The Authority shall establish a national data centre which shall be used for the storage, analysis, interpretation, and management of petroleum data and information from sedimentary basins and field operations. Decisions of the Authority.
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Ledama Olekina
I request Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr. to second.
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Mutula Kilonzo Jnr
seconded.
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(Question of the New Clause 13Y proposed)
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(New Clause 13Y read a First Time)
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(Question that New Clause 13Y be read a Second Time proposed)
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Question, that New Clause 13Y be part of the Bill proposed)
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The Temporary Chairperson
(Sen. (Prof.) Kamar): Division will be at the end.
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New Clause 13 Z
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Ledama Olekina
Madam Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT the Bill be amended by inserting the following new clause immediately after Clause 13- The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate.
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Ledama Olekina
Decisions of the Authority
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(1) Where the Authority is required to make a decision under this Act, the Authority shall make that decision within sixty days of obtaining all the documents or information required under this Act or hearing all parties, where necessary, in relation to the decision. (2) Where the Authority fails to make a decision within the period provided under this section (1), an affected party may apply to the Tribunal for the matter to be considered and determined by the Tribunal. (3) The decision of the Authority shall be in writing and shall include the reasons for the decision. (4) A decision of the Authority shall be served upon all relevant parties within seven days of making the decision and may be published in the Gazette as may be prescribed by Regulations. (5) Where a decision of the Authority requires a party to do or refrain from doing something, that party shall comply with the decision of the Authority within the time prescribed in the decision. Appeal against decision of the Authority.
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Ledama Olekina
I request Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr. to second.
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Mutula Kilonzo Jnr
seconded.
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(Question of the New Clause 13Z proposed)
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(New Clause 13Z read a First Time)
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(Question, that New Clause 13Z be read a Second Time proposed)
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Question, that New Clause 13Z be part of the Bill proposed)
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The Temporary Chairperson
(Sen. (Prof.) Kamar): Division will be at the end.
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New Clause 13 AA
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Ledama Olekina
Madam Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT the Bill be amended by inserting the following new clause immediately after Clause 13- Appeal against decision of the Authority
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A party aggrieved by a decision of the Authority may appeal to the Tribunal within sixty days of receipt of the decision: Provided that the Tribunal may hear an appeal out of time if it is satisfied that there is sufficient cause. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate.
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The common seal of the Authority.
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Ledama Olekina
I request Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr. to second.
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Mutula Kilonzo Jnr
seconded.
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(Question of the New Clause 13AA proposed)
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(New Clause 13AA read a First Time)
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(Question, that New Clause 13AAbe read a Second Time proposed)
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Question, that New Clause 13AA be part of the Bill proposed)
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The Temporary Chairperson
(Sen. (Prof.) Kamar): Division will be at the end.
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New Clause 13 BB
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Ledama Olekina
Madam Chairperson, I beg to move-
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Ledama Olekina
THAT the Bill be amended by inserting the following new clause immediately after Clause 13-
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Ledama Olekina
The common seal of the Authority.
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(1) The common seal of the Authority shall be kept in such custody as the Authority may direct and shall not be used except on the direction of the Board. (3) The common seal of the Authority when affixed on a document and duly authenticated shall be judicially and officially noticed unless and until the contrary is proved, and any necessary order or authorization by the Authority under this section shall be presumed to have been duly given. (3) The Chairperson and Director-General shall authenticate the affixing of the common seal of the Authority by the signature of the Chairperson and the Director-General: Provided that the Authority shall, in the absence of the Chairperson, nominate one member to authenticate the seal on behalf of the Chairperson. (4) The Chairperson and Director-General may authenticate, by their signatures— (a) any document not required by law to be made under seal and (b) all decisions of the Board.
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Ledama Olekina
I request Sen. Were to second. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate.
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Petronila Were Lokorio
seconded.
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(Question of the New Clause 13BB proposed)
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(New Clause 13BB read a First Time)
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(Question that New Clause 13BB be read a Second Time proposed)
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Question, that New Clause 13BB be part of the Bill proposed)
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The Temporary Chairperson
(Sen. (Prof.) Kamar): Division will be at the end. Hon. Senators we have received some amendments which are being circulated and may actually be before you, from Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr. we would like him to move them now. Sen. Olekina can resume his seat and then he will come back to complete the rest.
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Clause 18
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Mutula Kilonzo Jnr
Madam Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT Clause 18 of the Bill be amended by- deleting sub-clause (1) and substituting therefor the following new sub- clause– (1) Subject to section 23, the Cabinet Secretary shall negotiate, award and execute a petroleum agreement on behalf of the national government.
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(Question of the amendment proposed) Clause 117
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Mutula Kilonzo Jnr
Madam Chairperson, I beg to move - THAT clause 117 of the Bill be amended by:- deleting sub-clause (1) and substituting therefor the following new sub-clauses– (1) Where there is a dispute between parties to a petroleum
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Mutula Kilonzo Jnr
agreement arising out of or in connection with upstream
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Mutula Kilonzo Jnr
operations, the dispute shall be settled through arbitration.
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Mutula Kilonzo Jnr
(2) Unless otherwise provided for in the petroleum agreement, the parties shall appoint three arbitrators to determine the dispute as
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Mutula Kilonzo Jnr
follows- The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate.
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Mutula Kilonzo Jnr
(a) each party shall appoint one arbitrator; and (b) the arbitrators appointed under paragraph (a) shall, within thirty days of their appointment, jointly appoint an arbitrator who shall preside over the arbitration. a. Where a party fails to appoint an arbitrator within thirty days of receipt of a request to do so from the other party, or where the arbitrators appointed by the parties fail to appoint an arbitrator within thirty days of their appointment, the appointment shall be made, on the request of a party, by the Registrar of the Nairobi Centre for International Arbitration and any award, order or determination of or by such arbitrators shall be final and binding on all parties. b. The dispute referred to the arbitrators appointed by the Registrar under subsection (1) shall be administered in accordance with the Rules for arbitration of the Nairobi Centre for International Arbitration.
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(Question of the amendment proposed)
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The Temporary Chairperson
(Sen. (Prof.) Kamar): Division will be at the end.
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First Schedule (Question, that the First Schedule be part of the Bill proposed)
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The Temporary Chairperson
(Sen. (Prof.) Kamar): Division will be at the end.
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Second Schedule
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Mutula Kilonzo Jnr
Thank you, Madam Temporary Chairperson. I propose to move- THAT the Second Schedule be amended by deleting paragraph 53 and substituting therefor the following new paragraph - 53. Dispute resolution (1) Where there is a dispute between parties to a petroleum agreement arising out of or in connection with upstream operations, the dispute shall be settled through arbitration. (2) Unless otherwise provided for in the petroleum agreement, the parties shall appoint three arbitrators to determine the dispute as follows- The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate.
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(c) each party shall appoint one arbitrator; and (d) the arbitrators appointed under paragraph (a) shall, within thirty days of their appointment, jointly appoint an arbitrator who shall preside over the arbitration. (3) Where a party fails to appoint an arbitrator within thirty days of receipt of a request to do so from the other party, or where the arbitrators appointed by the parties fail to appoint an arbitrator within thirty days of their appointment, the appointment shall be made, on the request of a party, by the Registrar of the Nairobi Centre for International Arbitration and any award, order or determination of or by such arbitrators shall be final and binding on all parties. (4) The dispute referred to the arbitrators appointed by the Registrar under subsection (1) shall be administered in accordance with the Rules for arbitration of the Nairobi Centre for International Arbitration. (5) In the arbitration proceedings, (a) the place of arbitration proceedings shall be Nairobi, Kenya; (b) the language used for the proceedings shall be English language; (c) the applicable laws shall be the laws of the Republic of Kenya, and the provisions of this contract shall be interpreted in, accordance with those laws; (d) each party shall bear its own legal fees but the costs of the arbitral tribunal shall be borne by the parties in such manner as the arbitral tribunal shall determine; (e) the costs of the sole expert shall be borne equally by both parties; (f) the costs incurred in arbitration shall be recoverable costs and shall be borne by the parties in such manner as the arbitral tribunal shall determine or in accordance with the applicable arbitral rules; and (g) the parties shall continue to perform their, respective obligations under the contract during any sole expert or arbitration proceedings. (6) The right to, arbitrate differences or disputes arising out of this contract shall survive the termination of this contract.
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(Question of the amendment proposed)
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The Temporary Chairperson
(Sen. (Prof.) Kamar): Division will be at the end.
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The Temporary Chairperson
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New Schedule
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Ledama Olekina
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT the Bill be amended by inserting the following new Schedule immediately before the Schedule –
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FIRST SCHEDULE (s. 13F)
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CONDUCT OF MEETINGS OF THE BOARD
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1. (1) The Board shall meet as often as necessary for the transaction of business but shall meet not less than four times every financial year and not more than four months shall elapse between the date of one meeting and the next. (2) The Chairperson shall preside at every meeting of the Board at which the chairperson is present but in the absence of the chairperson, the members of the Board present shall appoint a member from among their number to preside at that meeting. (3) The Chairperson or, in the absence of the chairperson a member of the Board appointed by the Board to act in the place of the chairperson, may at any time call a special meeting upon a written request by a majority of the members.
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. Unless a unanimous decision is reached, a decision on any matter before the Board shall be by a majority of votes of the members of the Board present and in the case of an equality of votes, the chairperson or member presiding shall have a casting vote.
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. Any member of the Board present at a meeting of the Board or a Committee thereof, shall have the right to require his opinion to be recorded in the minutes if the Board or the Committee, as the case may be, passes a resolution, which in the opinion of that member is contrary to his advice or to law.
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. (1) A member of the Board who has a direct or indirect interest in a matter being considered or to be considered by the Board shall, as soon as possible after the relevant facts concerning the matter have come to his knowledge, disclose the nature of his interest to the Board and shall not be present during any deliberations on the matter. (2) A disclosure of interest made by a member of the Board under sub-section (1) shall be recorded in the minutes of the meeting of the Board and the member shall in respect of that matter—
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(a) remove himself or herself during any deliberations on the matter; (b) not participate in any decision taken by the Board on the matter; and (c) refrain from attempting to influence or coerce any other member to decide in his favour.
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. The Board shall cause the minutes of all proceedings of its meetings to be recorded and kept, and the minutes of each meeting shall be confirmed by the Board at the next meeting of the Board and signed by the Chairperson or the member presiding at the meeting.
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. (1) Subject to subsection (2), five members of the Board shall constitute a quorum for the conduct of business at any meeting of the Board. (2) When there is no quorum at or for the continuation of a meeting of the Board only because of the exclusion of a member of the Board under section 26, the other members present may, if they deem it expedient so to do- (a) postpone the consideration of that matter until there is a quorum; or (b) proceed to consider and decide the matter as if there was quorum. I request Sen. Pareno to second.
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Judith Ramaita Pareno
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I second.
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(Question of the New Schedule proposed)
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(New Schedule read the First Time)
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(Question, that the New Schedule be read a Second Time, proposed)
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Question, that the New Schedule be part of the Bill proposed)
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The Temporary Chairperson
(Sen. (Prof.) Kamar): Division will be at the end.
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Clause 2
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Mutula Kilonzo Jnr
Thank you, Madam Temporary Chairperson. I beg to move- The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate.
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Mutula Kilonzo Jnr
THAT Clause 2 of the Bill be amended by inserting the following new definition immediately after the definition of the term “Ministry” – “Nairobi Centre for International Arbitration” means the National Centre for International Arbitration established under section 4 of the Nairobi Centre for International Arbitration Act.
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(Question of the amendment proposed)
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The Temporary Chairperson
(Sen. (Prof.) Kamar): Division will be at the end.
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Title and Clause 1 (Question, that the Title and Clause 1 be part of the Bill proposed)
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The Temporary Chairperson
(Sen. (Prof.) Kamar): Division will be at the end. Could we hear from the Senate Majority Leader?
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(Loud consultations)
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The Temporary Chairperson
(Sen. (Prof.) Kamar): Order Hon. Members. Could we hear from the Senate Majority Leader, who is the Mover?
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Kipchumba Murkomen
(The Senate Majority Leader)
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move that the Committee do report progress to the Senate on its consideration of the Petroleum Bill (National Assembly Bills No. 48 of 2017), and seeks leave to sit again tomorrow.
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Susan Wakarura Kihika
seconded.
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(Question proposed)
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(Question put and agreed to)
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The Temporary Chairperson
(Sen. (Prof.) Kamar): Hon. Members, we shall move to the next Bill for us to go for Division for all the Bills.
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COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE
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THE KENYA ROADS BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO. 47 OF 2017)
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(Resumption of debate interrupted on 13.02.2019)
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The Temporary Chairperson
(Sen. (Prof.) Kamar): Hon. Members, we are now moving to the next Bill which is The Kenya Roads Bill (National Assembly Bills No. 47 of 2017) and we received amendments on time from Sen. Kasanga. We want her to come and move the amendments.
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The Temporary Chairperson
The clauses will be read to you one by one.
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Clause 4
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Sylvia Mueni Kasanga
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move: THAT Clause 4 be amended by inserting the words “and a county roads agency” immediately after the words “an Authority”.
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(Question of the amendment proposed)
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Clause 83
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Sylvia Mueni Kasanga
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT Clause 83 be amended– (a) in sub-clause (1) by (i) inserting the words “pedestrians, or” immediately after the words “for the benefit of the”. (ii) inserting the following words “including pavements, footpaths and footbridges” immediately after the words “or other works as” in paragraph (a). (b) by inserting the following new sub-clause immediately after sub-clause (1) (1A) Where a responsible body, immediately before the commencement of this Act, constructed a road without such accommodation works under sub-section (1), an Authority or a county roads agency shall, within a period of twenty four months, construct such accommodation works as are necessary for the benefit or convenience of pedestrians, or the owners and occupiers of lands adjoining those on which a road is constructed.
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(Question of the amendment proposed)
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Clause 85
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Sylvia Mueni Kasanga
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT Clause 85 be amended in paragraph (f) by inserting the words “pavement, footpath or footbridge” immediately after the words “parking area”. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate.
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(Question of the amendment proposed)
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Clause 98
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Sylvia Mueni Kasanga
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT Clause 98 be amended– (a) in sub-clause (2) by inserting the following new paragraph immediately after paragraph (f) – (fa) size, standards and use of pavements, footpaths and footbridges, including measures as are necessary to make such accommodation works fit for use by persons living with disabilities and cyclists; (b) by inserting the following new sub-clause immediately after sub-clause (4) – (4A) Despite sub-section (4), a county roads agency may, where it is not practicable to comply with uniformity and national standards in construction and use of roads or accommodation works, enact and implement such county legislation, policy, standards and guidelines as may be necessary.
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(Question of the amendment proposed)
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Clause 100
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Sylvia Mueni Kasanga
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT Clause 100 be amended – (a) in sub-clause (2) – (i) by inserting the following new paragraph immediately after paragraph (b) (ba) constructing, upgrading, rehabilitating and maintaining accommodation works such pavements, footpaths or footbridges as are necessary for the benefit of convenience of pedestrians, or the owners and occupiers of lands adjoining those on which the road is constructed; (ii) by deleting the words “county government” appearing at the end of paragraph (f) and substituting therefor the words “national government”. (b) in sub-clause (3) by inserting the words “and accommodation works” immediately after the words “county roads”.
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(Question of the amendment proposed)
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Kipchumba Murkomen
(The Senate Majority Leader)
Madam Temporary Chairperson, pursuant to Standing Order No.142, I beg to move that the Committee do The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate.
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Kipchumba Murkomen
(The Senate Majority Leader)
report progress on its consideration of The Kenya Roads Bill (National Assembly Bills No.47 of 2017) and seek leave to sit again tomorrow.
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(Question proposed)
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(Question put and agreed to)
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The Temporary Chairperson
(Sen. (Prof.) Kamar): Hon. Members, we will go to Division and vote on the Orders as they appear on the Order Paper. We will start with The Physical Planning Bill (National Assembly Bills No.34 of 2017), which is Order No.10. Then, we will vote on Order Nos.11, 12, 13 and 14.
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The Temporary Chairperson
May I now order that the Division Bell be rung for five minutes?
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(The Division Bell was rung)
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The Temporary Chairperson
(Sen. (Prof.) Kamar): Hon. Senators, please, resume your seats. I now order that the Bar be drawn and the door closed.
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(The Bar was drawn and door closed)
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(Several hon. Members stood)
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The Temporary Chairperson
Hon. Senators, please, move to your positions because we are about to begin.
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The Temporary Chairperson
Hon. Senators, can you log in now?
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An. hon. Senator
We have.
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The Temporary Chairperson
(Sen. (Prof.) Kamar): You can re-log in so that we are sure.
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(Loud consultations)
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The Temporary Chairperson
Hon. Senators, order! You can now start voting.
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THE PHYSICAL PLANNING BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO.34 OF 2017)
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(Sen. Murkomen on 26.7.2018)
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(Resumption of Debate interrupted on 13.02.2019)
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DIVISION
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ELECTRONIC VOTING The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate.
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(Question, that the First Schedule be deleted, put and the Senate proceeded to vote by County Delegations)
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AYES
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: Sen. Boy, Kwale County; Sen. Cheruiyot, Kericho County; Sen. Dullo, Isiolo County; Sen. Faki, Mombasa County; Sen. Iman, Garissa County; Sen. (Dr.) Kabaka, Machakos County; Sen. M. Kajwang’, Homa Bay County; Sen. (Prof.) Kamar, Uasin Gishu County; Sen. Khaniri, Vihiga County; Sen. Kibiru, Kirinyaga County; Sen. Kihika, Nakuru County; Sen. Kang’ata, Murang’a County; Sen. Kinyua, Laikipia County; Sen. (Dr.) Langat, Bomet County; Sen. Lelegwe, Samburu County; Sen. Loitiptip, Lamu County; Sen. Madzayo, Kilifi County; Sen. (Eng.) Mahamud, Mandera County; Sen. (Eng.) Maina, Nyeri County; Sen. (Dr.) Mbito, Trans Nzoia County; Sen. Murkomen, Elgeyo-Marakwet County; Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr., Makueni County; Sen. Mwangi, Nyandarua County; Sen. Ndwiga, Embu County; Sen. Ochillo-Ayacko, Migori County; Sen. Olekina, Narok County; Sen. Omogeni, Nyamira County; Sen. (Prof.) Ongeri, Kisii County; Sen. Orengo, Siaya County; Sen. Sakaja, Nairobi City County; Sen. Seneta, Kajiado County; Sen. Shiyonga, Kakamega County; Sen. (Rev.) Waqo, Marsabit County and Sen. Wario, Tana River County;
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ABSTENSIONS
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: 0 Hon. Senators, the results of the voting are as follows:
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34
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NOES:
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0
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ABSTENTIONS
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: 0 The “Ayes” have it.
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(Question carried by 34 votes to 0)
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DIVISION
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ELECTRONIC VOTING
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(Question, that Clauses 3-48, Clauses 50-64, Clauses 66-83, Clause 85, Clause 88, the Second Schedule, Third Schedule, the Fourth Schedule, Clause 2 and Clause 1 be amended as proposed)
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AYES:
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Sen. Boy, Kwale County; Sen. Cheruiyot, Kericho County; Sen. Dullo, Isiolo County; Sen. Faki, Mombasa County; Sen. Iman, Garissa County; Sen. (Prof.) Kamar, Uasin Gishu County; Sen. Kang’ata, Murang’a County; Sen. Khaniri, Vihiga County; Sen. Kibiru, Kirinyaga County; Sen. Kihika, Nakuru County; Sen. Kinyua, The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate.
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Laikipia County; Sen. (Eng.) Maina, Nyeri County; Sen. (Dr.) Langat, Bomet County; Sen. Lelegwe, Samburu County; Sen. Loitiptip, Lamu County; Sen. M. Kajwang’, Homa Bay County; Sen. Madzayo, Kilifi County; Sen. (Eng.) Mahamud, Mandera County; Sen. (Dr.) Mbito, Trans Nzoia County; Sen. Murkomen, Elgeyo Marakwet County; Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr., Makueni County; Sen. Mwangi, Nyandarua County; Sen. Ndwiga, Embu County; Sen. Ochillo-Ayacko, Migori County; Sen. Olekina, Narok County; Sen. Omogeni, Nyamira County; Sen. (Prof.) Ongeri, Kisii County; Sen. Orengo, Siaya County; Sen. Sakaja, Nairobi County; Sen. Seneta, Kajiado; Sen. Shiyonga, Kakamega County; Sen. Wamatangi, Kiambu County; Sen. (Rev.) Waqo, Marsabit County and Sen. Wario, Tana River County.
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Margaret Kamar
(The Temporary Speaker)
Hon. Senators, the result of the voting are as follows:
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YES:
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34
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NOES
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ABSTENTIONS
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(Question carried by 34 votes to 0)
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DIVISION
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ELECTRONIC VOTING
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(Question, that the new Clause 4A, 12A, 12B, 12C, 49A and 60A be now read a Second Time)
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AYES:
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Sen. Boy, Kwale County; Sen. Cheruiyot, Kericho County; Sen. Dullo, Isiolo County; Sen. Faki, Mombasa County; Sen. Iman, Garissa County; Sen. (Prof.) Kamar, Uasin Gishu County; Sen. Kang’ata, Murang’a County; Sen. Khaniri, Vihiga County; Sen. Kibiru, Kirinyaga County; Sen. Kihika, Nakuru County; Sen. Kinyua, Laikipia County; Sen. (Eng.) Maina, Nyeri County; Sen. (Dr.) Langat, Bomet County; Sen. Lelegwe, Samburu County; Sen. Loitiptip, Lamu County; Sen. M. Kajwang’, Homa Bay County; Sen. Madzayo, Kilifi County; Sen. (Eng.) Mahamud, Mandera County; Sen. (Dr.) Mbito, Trans Nzoia County; Sen. Murkomen, Elgeyo Marakwet County; Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr., Makueni County; Sen. Mwangi, Nyandarua County; Sen. Ndwiga, Embu County; Sen. Ochillo-Ayacko, Migori County; Sen. Olekina, Narok County; Sen. Omogeni, Nyamira County; Sen. (Prof.) Ongeri, Kisii County; Sen. Orengo, Siaya County; Sen. Sakaja, Nairobi County; Sen. Seneta, Kajiado; Sen. Shiyonga, Kakamega County; Sen. Wamatangi, Kiambu County; Sen. (Rev.) Waqo, Marsabit County and Sen. Wario, Tana River County.
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Margaret Kamar
(The Temporary Speaker)
Hon. Senators, the result of the voting are as follows-
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ABSTENTIONS
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(Question carried by 34 votes to 0)
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DIVISION
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ELECTRONIC VOTING
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(Question, that Clauses 3-48 (as amended) Clause 49, Clauses 50-64 (as amended), Clause 65, Clauses 66-83(as amended), Clause 84, Clause 85 (as amended), Clauses 86 and 87, Clause 88 (as amended), New Clauses 4A, 12A, 12B, 12C, 49A and 60A, the Second Schedule (as amended), the Third Schedule (as amended), the Fourth Schedule (as amended), Clause 2 (as amended), Title and Clause 1(as amended), be part of the Bill.)
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AYES:
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Sen. Boy, Kwale County; Sen. Cheruiyot, Kericho County; Sen. Dullo, Isiolo County; Sen. Faki, Mombasa County; Sen. Iman, Garissa County; Sen. (Prof.) Kamar, Uasin Gishu County; Sen. Kang’ata, Murang’a County; Sen. Khaniri, Vihiga County; Sen. Kibiru, Kirinyaga County; Sen. Kihika, Nakuru County; Sen. Kinyua, Laikipia County; Sen. (Eng.) Maina, Nyeri County; Sen. (Dr.) Langat, Bomet County; Sen. Lelegwe, Samburu County; Sen. Loitiptip, Lamu County; Sen. M. Kajwang’, Homa Bay County; Sen. Madzayo, Kilifi County; Sen. (Eng.) Mahamud, Mandera County; Sen. (Dr.) Mbito, Trans Nzoia County; Sen. Murkomen, Elgeyo Marakwet County; Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr., Makueni County; Sen. Mwangi, Nyandarua County; Sen. Ndwiga, Embu County; Sen. Ochillo-Ayacko, Migori County; Sen. Olekina, Narok County; Sen. Omogeni, Nyamira County; Sen. (Prof.) Ongeri, Kisii County; Sen. Orengo, Siaya County; Sen. Sakaja, Nairobi County; Sen. Seneta, Kajiado; Sen. Shiyonga, Kakamega County; Sen. Wamatangi, Kiambu County; Sen. (Rev.) Waqo, Marsabit County and Sen. Wario, Tana River County.
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Margaret Kamar
(The Temporary Speaker)
Hon. Senators, the result of the voting are as follows-
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YES:
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NOES
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ABSTENTIONS
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(Question carried by 34 votes to 0)
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THE LAND VALUE INDEX LAWS (AMENDMENT) BILL NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO.3 OF 2018
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DIVISION
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ELECTRONIC VOTING
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(Question, that Clauses 2,5,6,712,16,17 and 1 be amended as proposed put and the Senate proceeded to vote by County Delegations)
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AYES:
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Sen. Boy, Kwale County; Sen. Cheruiyot, Kericho County; Sen. Dullo, Isiolo County; Sen. Faki, Mombasa County; Sen. Iman, Garissa County; Sen. (Prof.)Kamar, Uasin Gishu County; Sen. Kang’ata, Murang’a County; Sen. Kajwang. M, Homa Bay County; Sen. Khaniri, Vihiga County; Sen. Kibiru, Kirinyaga County; Sen. Kihika, Nakuru County; Sen. Kinyua, Laikipia County; Sen. (Dr.) Langat, Bomet County; Sen. Lelegwe, Samburu County; Sen. Loitiptip, Lamu County; Sen. Madzayo, Kilifi County; Sen. (Eng.) Mahamud, Mandera County; Sen. (Eng.) Maina, Nyeri County; Sen. (Dr.) Mbito, Trans Nzoia County; Sen. Murkomen, Elgeyo-Marakwet County; Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr., Makueni County; Sen. Mwangi, Nyandarua County; Sen. Ndwiga, Embu County; Sen. Ochilli-Ayacko, Migori County; Sen. (Prof.) Ongeri, Kisii County; Sen. Olekina, Narok County; Sen. Omogeni, Nyamira County; Sen. Orengo, Siaya County; Sen. Sakaja, Nairobi City County; Sen. Seneta, Kajiado County; Sen. Shiyonga, Kakamega County; Sen. Wamatangi, Kiambu County; Sen. (Rev.) Waqo, Marsabit County and Sen. Wario, Tana River County.
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NOES:
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Nil
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The Temporary Speaker
(Sen. (Prof.) Kamar): Order, Members. The results of the voting are as follows-
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AYES:
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34
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NOES:
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ABSTENTIONS:
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Nil
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(Question carried by 34 votes to 0)
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DIVISION
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ELECTRONIC VOTING
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(Question, that Clauses 3,4,13 and 14 be deleted as proposed put and the Senate proceeded to vote by County Delegations)
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AYES:
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Sen. Boy, Kwale County; Sen. Cheruiyot, Kericho County; Sen. Dullo, Isiolo County; Sen. Faki, Mombasa County; Sen. Iman, Garissa County; Sen. (Prof.)Kamar, Uasin Gishu County; Sen. Kang’ata, Murang’a County; Sen. Kajwang. M, Homa Bay County; Sen. Khaniri, Vihiga County; Sen. Kibiru, Kirinyaga County; Sen. Kihika, Nakuru County; Sen. Kinyua, Laikipia County; Sen. (Dr.) Langat, Bomet County; Sen. Lelegwe, Samburu County; Sen. Loitiptip, Lamu County; Sen. Madzayo, The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate.
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Kilifi County; Sen. (Eng.) Mahamud, Mandera County; Sen. (Eng.) Maina, Nyeri County; Sen. (Dr.) Mbito, Trans Nzoia County; Sen. Murkomen, Elgeyo-Marakwet County; Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr., Makueni County; Sen. Mwangi, Nyandarua County; Sen. Ndwiga, Embu County; Sen. Ochilli-Ayacko, Migori County; Sen. (Prof.) Ongeri, Kisii County; Sen. Olekina, Narok County; Sen. Omogeni, Nyamira County; Sen. Orengo, Siaya County; Sen. Sakaja, Nairobi City County; Sen. Seneta, Kajiado County; Sen. Shiyonga, Kakamega County; Sen. Wamatangi, Kiambu County; Sen. (Rev.) Waqo, Marsabit County and Sen. Wario, Tana River County.
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NOES:
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Nil
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The Temporary Speaker
(Sen. (Prof.) Kamar): Order, Members. The results of the voting are as follows-
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AYES:
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34
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NOES:
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0
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ABSTENTIONS:
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Nil
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(Question carried by 34 votes to 0)
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DIVISION
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ELECTRONIC VOTING
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(Question, that Clauses 2 (as amended), 5 (as amended), 6 (as amended), 7 (as amended), 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 (as amended), 15, 16 (as amended), 17 (as amended) 18, 19, 20, 21, the Title and the Clause 1 (as amended) be part of the Bill proposed put and the Senate proceeded to vote by County Delegations)
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AYES:
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Sen. Boy, Kwale County; Sen. Cheruiyot, Kericho County; Sen. Dullo, Isiolo County; Sen. Faki, Mombasa County; Sen. Iman, Garissa County; Sen. (Prof.)Kamar, Uasin Gishu County; Sen. Kang’ata, Murang’a County; Sen. Kajwang. M, Homa Bay County; Sen. Khaniri, Vihiga County; Sen. Kibiru, Kirinyaga County; Sen. Kihika, Nakuru County; Sen. Kinyua, Laikipia County; Sen. (Dr.) Langat, Bomet County; Sen. Lelegwe, Samburu County; Sen. Loitiptip, Lamu County; Sen. Madzayo, Kilifi County; Sen. (Eng.) Mahamud, Mandera County; Sen. (Eng.) Maina, Nyeri County; Sen. (Dr.) Mbito, Trans Nzoia County; Sen. Murkomen, Elgeyo-Marakwet County; Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr., Makueni County; Sen. Mwangi, Nyandarua County; Sen. Ndwiga, Embu County; Sen. Ochilli-Ayacko, Migori County; Sen. (Prof.) Ongeri, Kisii County; Sen. Olekina, Narok County; Sen. Omogeni, Nyamira County; Sen. Orengo, Siaya County; Sen. Sakaja, Nairobi City County; Sen. Seneta, Kajiado County; Sen. Shiyonga, Kakamega County; Sen. Wamatangi, Kiambu County; Sen. (Rev.) Waqo, Marsabit County and Sen. Wario, Tana River County.
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NOES:
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Nil
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The Temporary Speaker
(Sen. (Prof.) Kamar): Order, Members. The results of the voting are as follows-
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AYES:
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34
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NOES:
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0
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ABSTENTIONS:
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Nil
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(Question carried by 34 votes to 0)
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The Temporary Speaker
(Sen. (Prof.) Kamar): That brings to the end The Land Value Index Laws (Amendment) Bill National Assembly Bills No. 34 of 2017. We will move to the Kenya Roads Bill (National Assembly Bills No. 47 of 2017).
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THE KENYA ROADS BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO. 47 OF 2017
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DIVISION
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ELECTRONIC VOTING
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(Question, that Clauses 4,7,9,10,12,14,17,20,44,47,48,52,56,67,83,85,98, 100,101,102, Third Schedule, and Clause2 be amended as proposed put and the Senate proceeded to vote by County Delegations)
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AYES:
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Sen. Boy, Kwale County; Sen. Cheruiyot, Kericho County; Sen. Dullo, Isiolo County; Sen. Faki, Mombasa County; Sen. Iman, Garissa County; Sen. (Prof.)Kamar, Uasin Gishu County; Sen. Kang’ata, Murang’a County; Sen. Kajwang. M, Homa Bay County; Sen. Khaniri, Vihiga County; Sen. Kibiru, Kirinyaga County; Sen. Kihika, Nakuru County; Sen. Kinyua, Laikipia County; Sen. (Dr.) Langat, Bomet County; Sen. Lelegwe, Samburu County; Sen. Loitiptip, Lamu County; Sen. Madzayo, Kilifi County; Sen. (Eng.) Mahamud, Mandera County; Sen. (Eng.) Maina, Nyeri County; Sen. (Dr.) Mbito, Trans Nzoia County; Sen. Murkomen, Elgeyo-Marakwet County; Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr., Makueni County; Sen. Mwangi, Nyandarua County; Sen. Ndwiga, Embu County; Sen. Ochilli-Ayacko, Migori County; Sen. (Prof.) Ongeri, Kisii County; Sen. Olekina, Narok County; Sen. Omogeni, Nyamira County; Sen. Orengo, Siaya County; Sen. Sakaja, Nairobi City County; Sen. Seneta, Kajiado County; Sen. Shiyonga, Kakamega County; Sen. Wamatangi, Kiambu County; Sen. (Rev.) Waqo, Marsabit County and, Sen. Wario, Tana River County.
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NOES:
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Nil
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The Temporary Speaker
(Sen. (Prof.) Kamar): Order, Members. The results of the voting are as follows-
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AYES:
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34
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NOES:
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0 The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate.
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ABSTENTIONS:
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Nil
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(Question carried by 34 votes to 0)
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DIVISION
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ELECTRONIC VOTING
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(Question that Clauses 3,4 (as amended), 5,6,7 (as amended), 8,9 (as amended), 10 (as amended), 11,12 (as amended), 13,14 (as amended), 15,16,17 (as amended), 18,19,20 (as amended), 21-43 (as amended), 44 (as amended), 45,46,47 (as amended), 48 (as amended), 49-51 (as amended), 52 (as amended), 53-55, 56 (as amended), 57-66, 67 (as amended), 68-82, 83 (as amended), 84,85 (as amended), 86-97, 98 (as amended), 99,100 (as amended), 101 (as amended), 102 (as amended), 103,104, First Schedule, Second Schedule, Third Schedule (as amended), Clause 2 (as amended), the Title and Clause 1 be part of the Bill)
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AYES:
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Sen. Boy, Kwale County; Sen. Cheruiyot, Kericho County; Sen. Dullo, Isiolo County; Sen. Faki, Mombasa County; Sen. Iman, Garissa County, Sen. M. Kajwang’, Homa Bay County; Sen. (Prof.) Kamar, Uasin Gishu County; Sen. Kang’ata, Murang’a County; Sen. Khaniri, Vihiga County; Sen. Kibiru, Kirinyaga County; Sen. Kihika, Nakuru County; Sen. Kinyua, Laikipia County; Sen. (Dr.) Langat, Bomet County; Sen. Lelegwe, Samburu County; Sen. Loitiptip, Lamu County; Sen. Madzayo, Kilifi County; Sen. (Eng.) Mahamud, Mandera County; Sen. (Dr.) Mbito, Trans Nzoia County; Sen. Murkomen, Elgeyo-Marakwet County; Sen. Mwangi, Nyandarua County; Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr., Makueni County; Sen. Mwangi, Nyandarua County; Sen. Ndwiga, Embu County; Sen. Ochillo-Ayacko, Migori County; Sen. Olekina, Narok County; Sen. Omogeni, Nyamira County; Sen. (Prof.) Ongeri, Kisii County; Sen. Orengo, Siaya County; Sen. Sakaja, Nairobi City County; Sen. Seneta, (Kajiado County); Sen. Shiyonga, Kakamega County; Sen. Wamatangi, Kiambu County; Sen. (Rev.) Waqo, (Marsabit County); and Sen. Wario, Tana River County;
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The Temporary Speaker
(Sen. (Prof.) Kamar): Order, Members. The results of the voting are as follows-
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AYES:
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34
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NOES:
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0
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ABSTENTIONS:
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0 The “Ayes” have it.
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( Question carried by 34 votes to 0)
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The Temporary Chairperson (
Sen. Prof. Kamar)
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)
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: Hon. Members, that finishes that Bill. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate.
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(Loud consultations)
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Senate Majority Leader, can you explain the other two Bills please?
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Kipchumba Murkomen
(The Senate Majority Leader)
Madam Temporary Chairperson, we have consulted with the Senate Minority Leader regarding the Energy Bill (National Assembly Bills No. 50 of 2017) and the Petroleum Bill (National Assembly Bills No. 48 of 2017). We are requesting your kind office and your kindness to indulge us to continue on further consultations regarding the amendments that have been proposed so that it can be put for voting in the next available opportunity after consultations.
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The Temporary Chairperson (
Sen. (Prof.) Kamar)
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)
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: Very well. It is so ordered; we will deal with the two Bills in the sitting of Tuesday.
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COMMITTEEE OF THE WHOLE
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THE ENERGY BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO. 50 OF 2017)
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THE PETROLEUM BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO. 48 OF 2017)
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(Committee of the Whole deferred)
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PROGRESS REPORTED
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THE PHYSICAL PLANNING BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO.34 OF 2017)
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The Temporary Chairperson (
Sen. (Prof.) Kamar)
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)
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: Okay, we are ready to report progress. Proceed, Senate Majority Leader.
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(Loud consultations)
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Kipchumba Murkomen
(The Senate Majority Leader)
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move that the Committee do report progress to the Senate on its consideration of the Physical Planning Bill (National Assembly Bills No.34 of 2017) and it is approval thereof with amendments.
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(Question proposed)
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(Question put and agreed to)
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Kipchumba Murkomen
(The Senate Majority Leader)
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The Temporary Chairperson (
Sen. (Prof.) Kamar)
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)
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: The next one is the Land Value Index Laws (amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bills No. 3 of 2018). Mover, proceed.
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THE LAND VALUE INDEX LAWS (AMENDMENT) BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO. 3 OF 2018)
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Kipchumba Murkomen
(The Senate Majority Leader)
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move that the Committee do report progress to the Senate its consideration of the Land Value Index Laws (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bills No. 3 of 2018) and it is approval thereof with amendments.
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Question proposed)
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(Question put and agreed to)
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The Temporary Chairperson (
Sen. (Prof.) Kamar)
-
)
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: We now proceed to the Kenya Roads Bill (National Assembly Bills No. 47 of 2017). Mover, proceed.
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THE KENYA ROADS BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO. 47 OF 2017)
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Kipchumba Murkomen
(The Senate Majority Leader)
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move that the Committee of the Whole do report to the Senate its consideration of the Kenya Roads Bill (National Assembly Bill No.47 of 2017) and its approval thereof with amendments.
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(Question proposed)
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(Question put and agreed to)
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PROGRESS REPORTED
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THE ENERGY BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO. 50 OF 2017)
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Kipchumba Murkomen
(The Senate Majority Leader)
Madam Temporary Chairperson, pursuant to Standing Order No. 14(2) I beg to move that the Committee of the Whole reports progress on its consideration of the Energy Bill (National Assembly Bills No. 50 of 2017) and seeks leave to sit again tomorrow. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate.
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(Question proposed)
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(Question put and agreed to)
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THE PETROLEUM BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO. 48 OF 2017)
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Kipchumba Murkomen
(The Senate Majority Leader)
Madam Temporary Chairperson, pursuant to Standing Order No. 14(2) I beg to move that the Committee of the Whole reports progress on its consideration of the Petroleum Bill (National Assembly Bill No.48 of 2017) and seeks leave to sit again tomorrow.
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(Question proposed)
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(Question put and agreed to)
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The Temporary Chairperson
Sen. (Prof.) Kamar): Hon. Senators, we are now done.
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(The House resumed)
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[The Temporary Speaker(Sen. Lelegwe) in the Chair]
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(Loud consultations)
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REPORTS, CONSIDERATION OF REPORTS AND THIRD READINGS
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The Temporary Speaker
Sen. Lelegwe: Order, Hon. Senators. We are now reporting on the Physical Planning Bill (National Assembly Bill No. 34 of 2017). Let us have the Chairperson, Committee of the Whole.
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THE PHYSICAL PLANNING BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO. 34 OF 2017)
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Margaret Kamar
Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I beg to report that the Committee of the Whole has considered the Physical Planning Bill (National Assembly Bills No.34 of 2017) and its approval thereof with amendments. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate.
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Kipchumba Murkomen
(The Senate Majority Leader)
Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee of the Whole on the said Report and ask the Senate Minority Leader to second.
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James Orengo
(The Senate Minority Leader)
Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I beg to second.
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(Question proposed)
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(Question put and agreed to)
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The Temporary Speaker
Sen. Lelegwe: Mover, proceed.
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Kipchumba Murkomen
(The Senate Majority Leader)
Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I beg to move that the Physical Planning Bill (National Assembly Bills No. 34 of 2017) be now read a Third Time.
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James Orengo
(The Senate Minority Leader)
Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I beg to second.
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(Question proposed)
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The Temporary Speaker
Sen. Lelegwe: Division will be done later. Hon. Senators, we are now reporting on the Land Value Index Bill (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bills No. 3 of 2018). Let us have the Chairperson, Committee of the Whole.
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THE LAND VALUE INDEX LAWS (AMENDMENT) BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO. 3 OF 2018)
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Margaret Kamar
Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I beg to report that the Committee of the Whole has considered the Land Value Index Laws (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bills No. 3 of 2018) and its approval thereof with amendments.
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The Temporary Speaker
Sen. Lelegwe: Mover, proceed.
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Kipchumba Murkomen
(The Senate Majority leader)
Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee of the Whole on the said Report and ask the Senate Minority Leader to second.
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James Orengo
(The Senate Minority Leader)
Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I beg to second although he should be using the word “doth agree”.
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(Question proposed)
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(Question put and agreed to)
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James Orengo
(The Senate Minority Leader)
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Kipchumba Murkomen
(The Senate Majority Leader)
Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I beg to move that The Land Value Index Laws (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bills No. 3 of 2018) be now read a Third Time. I ask the Senate Minority Leader to second.
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James Orengo
(The Senate Minority Leader)
Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I beg to second.
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(Question proposed)
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Steve Ltumbesi Lelegwe
(The Temporary Speaker)
The Division will come later.
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THE KENYA ROADS BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO.47 OF 2017)
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Steve Ltumbesi Lelegwe
(The Temporary Speaker)
Hon. Senators, we will now report on The Kenya Roads Bill (National Assembly Bills No.47 of 2017).
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Margaret Kamar
Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I beg to report that the Committee of the Whole has considered The Kenya Roads Bill (National Assembly Bills No.47 of 2017) and its approval thereof with amendments.
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Kipchumba Murkomen
(The Senate Majority Leader)
Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee of the Whole on the said Report. I ask the Senate Minority Leader to Second.
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James Orengo
(The Senate Minority Leader)
Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I do second.
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(Question proposed)
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(Question put and agreed to)
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Kipchumba Murkomen
(The Senate Majority Leader)
Mr. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that The Kenya Roads Bill (National Assembly Bills No.47 of 2017) be now read a Third Time. I ask the Senate Minority Leader to second.
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James Orengo
(The Senate Minority Leader)
Mr. Temporary Speaker Sir, I beg to Second.
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(Question proposed)
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Steve Ltumbesi Lelegwe
(The Temporary Speaker)
The Division will come later.
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Steve Ltumbesi Lelegwe
(The Temporary Speaker)
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PROGRESS REPORTED
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THE ENERGY BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO.50 OF 2017)
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Margaret Kamar
Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I beg to report progress that the Committee of the Whole has considered The Energy Bill(National Assembly No.50 of 2017) and seeks leave to sit again tomorrow.
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Kipchumba Murkomen
(The Senate Majority Leader)
Mr. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee of the Whole on the said Report. I ask the Senate Minority Leader to second.
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James Orengo
Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I beg to Second.
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(Question proposed)
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(Question put and agreed to)
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THE PETROLEUM BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO. 48 OF 2017)
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Steve Ltumbesi Lelegwe
(The Temporary Speaker)
Hon. Senators, we will now report progress on The Petroleum Bill (National Assembly Bills No.48 of 2017).
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Margaret Kamar
Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I beg to report progress that the Committee of the Whole has considered The Petroleum Bill(National Assembly Bills No.48 of 2017) and seeks leave to sit again tomorrow.
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Kipchumba Murkomen
(The Senate Majority Leader)
Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee on the said Report. I ask the Senate Minority Leader to second.
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James Orengo
(The Senate Minority Leader)
Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I beg to second.
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(Question proposed)
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(Question put and agreed to)
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Steve Ltumbesi Lelegwe
(The Temporary Speaker)
Order, hon. Senators! I order that the Division Bell be rung for one minute.
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(The Division Bell was rung)
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Steve Ltumbesi Lelegwe
(The Temporary Speaker)
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Steve Ltumbesi Lelegwe
(The Temporary Speaker)
We will vote on The Physical Planning Bill (National Assembly Bills No.34 of 2017), The Land Value Index Laws (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bills No.3 of 2018) and The Kenya Roads Bill (National Assembly Bills No.47 of 2017). I order the doors to be closed and the Bars drawn
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(The doors were closed and the Bars drawn)
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Steve Ltumbesi Lelegwe
(The Temporary Speaker)
Hon. Senators, I put the Question, that The Physical Planning Bill (National Assembly Bills No.34 of 2017) be now read a Third Time. You may start voting now.
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(The Senators proceeded to vote)
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Steve Ltumbesi Lelegwe
(The Temporary Speaker)
Order, Hon. Senators. Could Sen. Kang’ata approach the Clerks-at-the Table?
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(Sen. Kang’ata walked to the Clerks-at-the Table and registered his vote)
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Steve Ltumbesi Lelegwe
(The Temporary Speaker)
Hon. Senators, before we announce the results for the Physical Planning Bill (National Assembly Bills No. 34 of 2017), we will move to the next two Bills then we will announce the results later.
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Steve Ltumbesi Lelegwe
(The Temporary Speaker)
Could Senator of Tana River County approach the Clerks-at-the Table?
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(Sen. Wario walked to the Clerks-at-the Table and registered his vote)
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THIRD READINGS
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THE PHYSICAL PLANNING BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO. 34 OF 2017)
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DIVISION
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ELECTRONIC VOTING
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(Question, that the Physical Planning Bill (National Assembly Bills No. 34 of 2017) be now read a Third Time put, and the Senate proceeded to vote by County Delegations)
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AYES:
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Sen. Boy, Kwale County; Sen. Cherargei, Nandi County; Sen. Cheruiyot, Kericho County; Sen. Dullo, Isiolo County; Sen. Faki, Mombasa County; Sen. Iman, The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate.
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Garissa County; Sen. Kajwang’ M., Homa Bay County; Sen. (Prof.) Kamar, Uasin Gishu County; Sen. Kang’ata, Murang’a County; Sen. Khaniri, Vihiga County; Sen. Kibiru, Kirinyaga County; Sen. Kihika, Nakuru County; Sen. Kinyua, Laikipia County; Sen. (Dr.) Langat, Bomet County; Sen. Lelegwe, Samburu County; Sen. Loitiptip, Lamu County; Sen. Madzayo, Kilifi County; Sen. (Eng.) Mahamud, Mandera County; Sen. (Eng.) Maina, Nyeri County; Sen. (Dr.) Mbito, Trans Nzoia County; Sen. Murkomen, Elgeyo-Marakwet County; Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr., Makueni County; Sen. Mwangi, Nyandarua County; Sen. Mwaruma, Taita Taveta County; Sen. Ndwiga, Embu County; Sen. Ochillo-Ayacko, Migori County; Sen. Olekina, Narok County; Sen. Omogeni, Nyamira County; Sen. (Prof.) Ongeri, Kisii County; Sen. Orengo, Siaya County; Sen. Sakaja, Nairobi City County; Sen. Seneta, Kajiado County; Sen. Shiyonga, Kakamega County; Sen. Wamatangi, Kiambu County; Sen. (Rev.) Waqo, Marsabit County and Sen. Wario, Tana River County.
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NOES:
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Nil.
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Steve Ltumbesi Lelegwe
(The Temporary Speaker)
Hon. Senators, the results of the Division are as follows-
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AYES:
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36
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NOES:
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Nil
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ABSENTIONS:
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Nil
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The “Ayes” have it.
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(Question carried by 36 votes to 0)
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(The Bill was accordingly read the Third Time and passed)
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THE LAND VALUE INDEX LAWS (AMENDMENT) BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO. 3 OF 2018)
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DIVISION
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ELECTRONIC VOTING
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(Question, that the Land Value Index Laws (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bill No. 3 of 2018) be now read a Third Time put, and the Senate proceeded to vote by County Delegations)
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AYES:
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Sen. Boy, Kwale County; Sen. Cherargei, Nandi County; Sen. Cheruiyot, Kericho County; Sen. Dullo, Isiolo County; Sen. Faki, Mombasa County; Sen. Iman, Garissa County; Sen. Kajwang’ M., Homa Bay County; Sen. (Prof.) Kamar, Uasin Gishu County; Sen. Kang’ata, Murang’a County; Sen. Khaniri, Vihiga County; Sen. Kibiru, Kirinyaga County; Sen. Kihika, Nakuru County; Sen. Kinyua, Laikipia County; Sen. (Dr.) Langat, Bomet County; Sen. Lelegwe, Samburu County; Sen. Loitiptip, Lamu The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate.
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County; Sen. Madzayo, Kilifi County; Sen. (Eng.) Mahamud, Mandera County; Sen. (Eng.) Maina, Nyeri County; Sen. (Dr.) Mbito, Trans Nzoia County; Sen. Murkomen, Elgeyo-Marakwet County; Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr., Makueni County; Sen. Mwangi, Nyandarua County; Sen. Mwaruma, Taita Taveta County; Sen. Ndwiga, Embu County; Sen. Ochillo-Ayacko, Migori County; Sen. Olekina, Narok County; Sen. Omogeni, Nyamira County; Sen. (Prof.) Ongeri, Kisii County; Sen. Orengo, Siaya County; Sen. Sakaja, Nairobi City County; Sen. Seneta, Kajiado County; Sen. Shiyonga, Kakamega County; Sen. Wamatangi, Kiambu County; Sen. (Rev.) Waqo, Marsabit County and Sen. Wario, Tana River County.
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NOES:
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Nil.
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Steve Ltumbesi Lelegwe
(The Temporary Speaker)
Hon. Senators, the results of the Division are as follows:-
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AYES:
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36
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NOES:
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Nil
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ABSENTIONS:
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Nil
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The “Ayes” have it.
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(Question carried by 36 votes to 0)
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(The Bill was accordingly read the Third Time and passed)
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THE KENYA ROADS BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO. 47 OF 2017)
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(Resumption of debate interrupted on 13.02.2019)
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DIVISION
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ELECTRONIC VOTING
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(Question, that the Kenya Roads Bill (National Assembly Bills No. 47 of 2017) be now read a Third Time put, and the Senate proceeded to vote by County Delegations)
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AYES:
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Sen. Boy, Kwale County; Sen. Cherargei, Nandi County; Sen. Cheruiyot, Kericho County; Sen. Dullo, Isiolo County; Sen. Faki, Mombasa County; Sen. Iman, Garissa County; Sen. Kajwang’ M., Homa Bay County; Sen. (Prof.) Kamar, Uasin Gishu County; Sen. Kang’ata, Murang’a County; Sen. Khaniri, Vihiga County; Sen. Kibiru, Kirinyaga County; Sen. Kihika, Nakuru County; Sen. Kinyua, Laikipia County; Sen. (Dr.) Langat, Bomet County; Sen. Lelegwe, Samburu County; Sen. Loitiptip, Lamu County; Sen. Madzayo, Kilifi County; Sen. (Eng.) Mahamud, Mandera County; Sen. (Eng.) Maina, Nyeri County; Sen. (Dr.) Mbito, Trans Nzoia County; Sen. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate.
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Murkomen, Elgeyo-Marakwet County; Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr., Makueni County; Sen. Mwangi, Nyandarua County; Sen. Mwaruma, Taita Taveta County; Sen. Ndwiga, Embu County; Sen. Ochillo-Ayacko, Migori County; Sen. Olekina, Narok County; Sen. Omogeni, Nyamira County; Sen. (Prof.) Ongeri, Kisii County; Sen. Orengo, Siaya County; Sen. Sakaja, Nairobi City County; Sen. Seneta, Kajiado County; Sen. Shiyonga, Kakamega County; Sen. Wamatangi, Kiambu County; Sen. (Rev.) Waqo, Marsabit County and Sen. Wario, Tana River County.
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NOES:
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Nil.
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Steve Ltumbesi Lelegwe
(The Temporary Speaker)
Hon. Senators, the results of the Division are as follows-
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AYES:
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36
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NOES:
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Nil
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ABSENTIONS:
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Nil
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The “Ayes” have it.
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(Question carried by 36 votes to 0)
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(The Bill was accordingly read the Third Time and passed)
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Steve Ltumbesi Lelegwe
(The Temporary Speaker)
I now order that the doors be opened and the Bar be drawn.
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(The doors were opened and the Bar drawn)
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COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE
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(Order for the Committee read)
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[The Temporary Speaker (Sen. (Dr.) Lelengwe) left the Chair]
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IN THE COMMITTEE
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[The Temporary Chairperson (Sen. (Prof.) Kamar) in the Chair]
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The Temporary Chairperson
(Sen. (Prof.) Kamar): Order Members! Thank you, you may now take your seats.
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(The Temporary Chairperson (Sen. (Prof.) Kamar) consulted the Clerks-at-the-Table)
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The Temporary Chairperson
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The Temporary Chairperson
(Sen. (Prof.) Kamar): Order, Members! Please consult in low tones. After consultations we are going to Order No.16 then we come back to Order No.15. Order No. 16 is on the Public Private Partnerships (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bills No. 52 of 2017).
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THE PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS (AMENDMENT) BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO. 52 OF 2017)
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Clauses 3-6 (Question that Clauses 3, 4, 5 and 6 be part of the Bill, proposed)
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The Temporary Chairperson
(Sen. (Prof.) Kamar): The Division will come at the end.
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Clause 7
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Mohammed Maalim Mahamud
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT the Bill be amended by deleting clause 7.
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The Temporary Chairperson
(Sen. (Prof.) Kamar): We did not hear you. Please, use the microphone again.
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Mohammed Maalim Mahamud
Sorry, I missed
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The Temporary Chairperson
(Sen. (Prof.) Kamar): Okay, the microphone is back.
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Mohammed Maalim Mahamud
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT the Bill be amended by deleting Clause 7
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(Question of the amendment proposed)
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The Temporary Chairperson
(Sen. (Prof.) Kamar): The Division will come at the end.
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Clause 8
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Mohammed Maalim Mahamud
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT clause 8 of the Bill be amended- (a) in paragraph (a) by deleting the words “county government” appearing immediately after the words “approval by the” in the proposed new proviso and substituting therefor the words “county assembly committee” instead of “county executive committee” (b) by inserting the following new paragraph immediately after paragraph (b)- (c) in subsection (3) by inserting the words “in consultation with the Council of County Governors” immediately after the words “the Cabinet Secretary shall”. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate.
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The Temporary Chairperson
(Sen. (Prof.) Kamar): Chair, we take it that you are moving the amendment in the new amended form?
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Mohammed Maalim Mahamud
Yes, Madam Temporary Chairperson.
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The Temporary Chairperson
(Sen. (Prof.) Kamar): Okay.
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(Question of the amendment proposed)
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The Temporary Chairperson
(Sen. (Prof.) Kamar): The Division will come at the end.
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Clause 9-11 (Question that Clauses 9, 10 and 11 be part of the Bill, Proposed)
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The Temporary Chairperson
(Sen. (Prof.) Kamar): The Division will come at the end.
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Clause 12
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Mohammed Maalim Mahamud
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT Clause 12 of the Bill be amended in the proposed new subsection (1) by deleting the words “in consistence” appearing immediately after the words “this Act and” and substituting therefor the word “consistent”.
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(Question of the amendment proposed)
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The Temporary Chairperson
(Sen. (Prof.) Kamar): The Division will come at the end.
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Clause 13-15 (Question that Clauses 13, 14 and 15 be part of the Bill, Proposed)
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The Temporary Chairperson
(Sen. (Prof.) Kamar): The Division will come at the end.
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Clause 16
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The Temporary Chairperson
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Mohammed Maalim Mahamud
Madam Temporary Chairperson, there is a further amendment to Clause 16 and I will read it as it is. I beg to move- THAT Clause 16 of the Bill be amended – (a) in the proposed new section 54Aby deleting subsection (2) and substituting therefor the following new subsection- (2) Where a county government intends to enter into a public private partnership agreement, it shall cause its user department or county entity, as the case may be, to prepare a project proposal for approval by the respective county assembly committee (instead of county executive committee), setting out the strategic and operational benefits of entering into such an arrangement. (b) in the proposed new section 54B by deleting subsection (2).
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The Temporary Chairperson
(Sen. (Prof.) Kamar): Chairperson, can you confirm that you are moving the amendment as amended?
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Mohammed Maalim Mahamud
Correct.
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The Temporary Chairperson
(Sen. (Prof.) Kamar): In the amended form?
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Mohammed Maalim Mahamud
Yes, in the amended form
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(Question of the amendment proposed)
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The Temporary Chairperson
(Sen. (Prof.) Kamar): The Division will come at the end.
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Clause 17-18 (Question that Clauses 17 and 18 be part of the Bill, Proposed)
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The Temporary Chairperson
(Sen. (Prof.) Kamar): The Division will come at the end.
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Clause 19
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Mohammed Maalim Mahamud
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT Clause 19 of the Bill be amended– (a) in paragraph (a)(ii) by inserting the word “relevant” immediately after the words “persons with such” in the proposed new paragraph (b); The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate.
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(b) in paragraph (a)(iii) by inserting the words “having relevant experience and knowledge” immediately after the words “opposite gender” in the proposed new paragraph (ba).
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(Question of the amendment proposed)
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The Temporary Chairperson
(Sen. (Prof.) Kamar): The Division will come at the end.
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New Clause 4A
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Mohammed Maalim Mahamud
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT the Bill be amended by inserting the following new clause immediately after clause 4- Amendment
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4A.
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Section 4 of the principal Act is amended in of section 4 of subsection (1) by- No. 15 of (a) inserting the following new paragraph 2013. immediately after paragraph (f)- (fa) three persons nominated by the Council of County Governors; (b) deleting the word “four” appearing immediately before the words “persons not being” in paragraph (g) and substituting therefor the words “two”; (c) inserting the words “and infrastructure” immediately after the words “responsible for transport” in paragraph (i); and (d) deleting paragraph (j).
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(Question of the New Clause 10A proposed)
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(New Clause 10A read the First Time)
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(Question, that the New Clause 10A be read a Second Time, proposed)
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(Question that the new Clause 10A be part of the Bill, proposed)
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The Temporary Chairperson
(Sen. (Prof.) Kamar): The Division will come at the end.
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The Temporary Chairperson
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New Clause 5A
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Mohammed Maalim Mahamud
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT the Bill be amended by inserting the following new clause immediately after clause 5- Amendment of
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5A.
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Section 18 of the principal Act is amended by section 18 of No. 15 inserting the following new subsection immediately of 2013. after subsection (2) – (3)A contracting authority under subsection (1) shall ensure that it facilitates public participation on a project that it intends to finance, operate, equip or maintain.
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(Question of the New Clause 5A proposed)
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(New Clause 5A read the First Time)
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(Question, that the New Clause 5A be read a Second Time, proposed)
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(Question that the new Clause 5A be part of the Bill proposed)
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The Temporary Chairperson
(Sen. (Prof.) Kamar): The Division will come at the end.
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New Clause 20
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Mohammed Maalim Mahamud
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move-
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Mohammed Maalim Mahamud
THAT the Bill be amended by inserting the following new clause immediately after Clause 19–
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Mohammed Maalim Mahamud
20. The principal Act is amended by inserting the following section immediately after Section 70– Report of the Committee
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Mohammed Maalim Mahamud
70A.(1) Within three months after the end of each
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Mohammed Maalim Mahamud
Committee shall prepare a report on project agreements entered into by all contracting authorities in that financial year.
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Mohammed Maalim Mahamud
(2) The Committee shall, in preparing the report under subsection (1), set out the following information– The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate.
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(a) the status of implementation of every project agreement that is under implementation by each contracting authority including the outputs of each project as against the projected targets; (b) any challenges or deviations in the implementation and estimated completion of the project and the reasons for such deviation or delay; (c) a financial statement with respect to each project; (d) a risk assessment including information of any change in circumstances that may have an impact on the implementation of a project; and (e) such other information as the Committee and the Cabinet Secretary may consider necessary. (3) The Committee shall submit the report prepare under subsection (1) to the – (a) National Assembly; (b) Senate; (c) respective county assemblies in which a project is being undertaken under this Act; and (d) Controller of Budget. (4) Parliament and the county assemblies to which a report is submitted under subsection (3) shall, in accordance with their respective standing orders – (a) consider the report within thirty days of receipt of the report; (b) table a report together with its recommendations on the implementation of the projects; and (c) submit their recommendations to the Committee. (5) The Committee shall, ensure that the contracting authorities take into account the recommendations under subsection (4) in the implementation of a project under this Act.
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(Question of the New Clause proposed)
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(New Clause read the First Time)
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(Question, that the New Clause be read a Second Time, proposed)
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(Question that the new Clause be part of the Bill proposed)
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Mohammed Maalim Mahamud
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Clause 2
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Mohammed Maalim Mahamud
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move-
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Mohammed Maalim Mahamud
THAT Clause 2 of the Bill be amended- (a) in paragraph (a) in the proposed new definition of the term “contracting authority” by deleting the word “corporation” appearing immediately after the words“ government or county” in sub-paragraph (ii) and substituting therefor the word “entity”; (b) by deleting paragraph (b); (c) inserting the following new paragraph immediately after paragraph (b)- (c)inserting the following new definition immediately before the definition of the word “affordability”- “accounting officer” means in the case of- (a) a national government entity, the person designated as an accounting officer by the Cabinet Secretary responsible for finance in accordance with the provisions of the Public Finance Management Act; (b) the Parliamentary Service Commission, the Clerk of the Senate; (c) the National Assembly, the Clerk of the National Assembly; (d) a Constitutional Commission, institution or Independent Office the person responsible for the administration of the Commission or institution or Independent Office in accordance with the provisions of the Public Finance Management Act; (e) a county government entity, the person responsible for the administration of the county government entity in accordance with the provisions of the Public Finance Management Act; (f) a county assembly, the clerk of the county assembly; and (g) the Judiciary, the Chief Registrar of the Judiciary.
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(Question of the amendment proposed)
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The Title and Clause 1 (Question, that the Title and Clause 1 be part of the Bill proposed)
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The Temporary Chairperson
(Sen. (Prof.) Kamar): Hon. Members, we will proceed to the next Bill, so that we report progress at the same time. Sen. M. Kajwang' will stand in for the Chair.
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The Temporary Chairperson
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THE COPYRIGHT (AMENDMENT) BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO.33 OF 2017)
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Clauses 3 and 4 (Question, that clauses 3 and 4 be part of the Bill proposed) Clause 5
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Moses Otieno Kajwang'
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move-
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Moses Otieno Kajwang'
THAT Clause 5 of the Bill be amended - (a) in paragraph (b) by deleting the word “as” appearing immediately after the word “is” in the proposed new subsection (2)(a); (b) by inserting the following new paragraph immediately after paragraph (b) – (c) by inserting the following new subsection immediately after subsection (3) – (4) The Executive Director shall be appointed for a term of four years and shall be eligible for reappointment for one further term of four years.
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(Question of the amendment proposed)
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Clause 6
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Moses Otieno Kajwang'
Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move-
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Moses Otieno Kajwang'
THAT the Bill be amended by deleting clause 6 and substituting therefor the following new clause – 6. Section 19 of the principal Act is amended – (a) in subsection (2) by deleting the words “Auditor General (Corporations) or to an auditor appointed under this section” appearing immediately after the words “submit to the” and substituting therefor the words “Auditor-General”; and (b) by deleting subsection (3) and substituting therefor the following new subsection –
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Moses Otieno Kajwang'
No. 34 of 2015.
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Moses Otieno Kajwang'
(3) The accounts of the Board shall be audited and reported in accordance with
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Moses Otieno Kajwang'
the provisions of the Public Audit Act.
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(Question of the amendment proposed) Clauses 7-21 (Question, that Clauses 7-21 be part of the Bill proposed)
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Moses Otieno Kajwang'
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Clauses 22-35 (Question, that Clauses 22-35 be part of the Bill proposed) Clause 2, the Title and Clause 1 (Question, that Clause 2, the Title and Clause 1 be part of the Bill proposed)
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Kipchumba Murkomen
(The Senate Majority Leader)
Madam Temporary Chairperson, pursuant to Standing Order No.142, I beg to move that the Committee do report progress on its consideration of The Public Private Partnerships (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bills No.52 of 2017) and seek leave to sit again tomorrow.
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(Question proposed)
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Question put and agreed to)
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Kipchumba Murkomen
(The Senate Majority Leader)
Madam Temporary Chairperson, pursuant to Standing Order No.142, I beg to move that the Committee do report progress on its consideration of The Copyright (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bills No.33 of 2017) and seek leave to sit again tomorrow.
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(Question proposed)
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(Question put and agreed to)
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(The House resumed)
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[The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Lelegwe) in the Chair]
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PROGRESS REPORTED
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THE COPYRIGHT (AMENDMENT) BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO.33 OF 2017)
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Steve Ltumbesi Lelegwe
(The Temporary Speaker)
Hon. Senators, let us have Sen. (Prof.) Kamar report progress on The Copyright (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bills No.33 of 2017). The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate.
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Margaret Kamar
Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I beg to report that the Committee of the Whole has considered The Copyright (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bills No.33 of 2017) and seek leave to sit again tomorrow.
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Kipchumba Murkomen
(The Senate Majority Leader)
Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I beg to move that the House do agree the Committee on the said report.
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Mary Yiane Senata
seconded.
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(Question proposed)
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(Question put and agreed to)
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THE PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS AMENDMENT BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO. 52 OF 2017)
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Steve Ltumbesi Lelegwe
(The Temporary Speaker)
Hon. Senators, I now call upon the Chairperson to report progress on the Public Private Partnerships (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bill No. 52 of 2017)
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Margaret Kamar
Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I beg to report progress that the Committee of the Whole has considered the Public Private Partnerships (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bill No. 52 of 2017) and seeks leave to sit again tomorrow.
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Kipchumba Murkomen
(The Senate Majority Leader)
Mr. Temporary Speaker Sir, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee on the said report.
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(Question proposed)
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(Question put and agreed to)
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Steve Ltumbesi Lelegwe
(The Temporary Speaker)
Hon. Senators, we now proceed with the other business on the Order Paper. Next Order.
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STATEMENTS
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Hon. Members, we defer the Statements pursuant to Standing Order No.48(1). INCREASED CIRCULATION OF COUNTERFEIT AND SUBSTANDARD PRODUCTS
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STATUS OF IMPLEMENTATION OF THE SENATE RESOLUTION OF 18TH JULY, 2018, ON REGISTRATION OF PWDS
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DELAY BY THE MINISTRY OF EDUCATION TO DISBURSE MONEY TO PUBLIC SCHOOLS The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate.
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STATUS OF IMPLEMENTATION OF THE SECTOR POLICY FOR LEARNERS AND TRAINEES WITH DISABILITIES
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COMPULSORY MANAGEMENT OF COPYRIGHT AND OTHER RELATED RIGHTS
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STATUS OF WATER AND SEWERAGE IN NAIROBI CITY, COUNTY
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(Statements deferred)
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Hon. Senators, I call upon the Senate Majority Leader to make his Statement pursuant to Standing Order No.52(1).
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BUSINESS FOR THE WEEK COMMENCING TUESDAY, 19TH FEBRUARY, 2019
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Kipchumba Murkomen
(The Senate Majority Leader)
Hon. Senators, pursuant to Standing Order 52(1), I hereby present to the Senate, the business of the House for the week commencing Tuesday, 19th February, 2019. Before I proceed with the Statement, allow me to take this opportunity to welcome you back to the Senate for the Third Session of the Twelfth Parliament. It is my sincere hope that you had quality time with your families and constituents, as well as had enough rest to take on the business of the House in this Session. Hon. Senators, on Tuesday, 19th February, 2019, the Senate Business Committee (SBC) will meet to schedule the business of the Senate for the week. Subject to further directions by the SBC, the Senate will on Tuesday, 19th February, 2019, consider Bills at Second Reading and those at the Committee of the Whole. The Senate will also continue with consideration of business that will not be concluded in today’s Order Paper. On Wednesday, 20th February, and Thursday, 21st February, 2019, the Senate will consider business that will not be concluded on Tuesday and any other business scheduled by the SBC. Hon. Senators, we have a total of 15 Bills due for Second Reading stage; these are - (1) The County Governments Retirement Scheme Bill (National Assembly Bills No. 10 of 2018); (2) The Local Content Bill (Senate Bill No. 10 of 2018); (3) The County Statutory Instruments Bill (Senate Bills No. 21 of 2018) (4) The Treaty Making and Ratification (Amendment) Bill (Senate Bills Bo. 23 of 2018); (5) The Statutory Instruments (Amendment) Bill (Senate Bills No. 24 of 2018); The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate.
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Kipchumba Murkomen
(The Senate Majority Leader)
(6) The County Compliance and Enforcement Bill (Senate Bills No. 25 of 2018); (7) The County Early Childhood Education Bill (Senate Bills No. 26 of 2018); (8) The Preservation of Human Dignity and Enforcement of Economic and Social Rights (Senate Bills No. 27 of 2018); (9) The County Oversight and Accountability Bill (Senate Bills No. 28 of 2018); (10) The Determination of the Nature of Bills (Procedure) Bill (Senate Bills No. 30 of 2018); (11) The Natural Resources (Benefit Sharing) Bill (Senate Bills No.31 of 2018); (12) The Mental Health (Amendment) Bill (Senate Bills No. 12 of 2018); (13) The Election Laws (Amendment) Bill (Senate Bills No. 33 of 2018); (14) The County Wards (Equitable Development) Bill (Senate Bills No.34 of 2018); and (15) The Tea Bill (Senate Bills No.36 of 2018); Hon. Senators, there are twelve (12) Bills at the Committee of the Whole Stage in addition to those listed in today’s Order Paper. These are: (1) The County Governments Retirement Scheme Bill (Senate Bill No.6 of 2018); (2) The Public Participation Bill (Senate Bills No.4 of 2018); (3) The Retirement Benefits (Deputy President and Designated State Officers) (Amendment) Bill (Sen. Bill No. 2 of 2018); (4) The County Governments (Amendment) Bill (Senate Bills No.13 of 2018); (5) The Irrigation Bill (National Assembly Bills No. 46 of 2017); (6) The Impeachment Procedure Bill (Senate Bills No.15 of 2018); (7) The Care and Protection of Older Members of Society Bill (Senate Bills No.17 of 2018); (8) The Prevention of Terrorism (Amendment) Bill (Senate Bills No.20 of 2018); (9) The Petition to County Assemblies (Procedure) Bill (Senate Bills No.22 of 2018); (10) The Data Protection Bill (Senate Bills No.16 of 2018); (11) The County Planning (Roads, Pavements and Parking Bays) Bill (Senate Bills No 18 of 2018); and (12) The County Outdoor Advertising Control Bill (Senate Bills No.19 of 2018);
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Kipchumba Murkomen
(The Senate Majority Leader)
Hon. Senators, we started off well yesterday and we have already considered five Bills at the Committee of the Whole. What is awaiting our action today is voting on the amendments to four Bills – as there were no objections from yesterday’s proceedings - and the Third Reading for the same. I urge hon. Senators to remain in the Chamber for the Senate to successfully complete consideration of the Bills. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate.
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Kipchumba Murkomen
(The Senate Majority Leader)
I also urge sponsors of the Bills and the respective Movers of amendments to avail themselves to enable the House to effectively navigate the remaining Bills at the Committee of the Whole stage. May I also take this opportunity to remind Chairpersons of Standing Committees to hasten consideration and public participation on the Bills at Second Reading stage and file reports to enrich debate on them. Finally, hon. Senators, from the above, you notice that the House and its Committees have full plates as we begin the Third Session. Let us rededicate ourselves to service to the people of Kenya and dispense with business before us expeditiously. Mr. Temporary Speaker, I thank you and hereby lay the Statement on the Table of the House.
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(Sen. Murkomen laid the document on the Table)
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Steve Ltumbesi Lelegwe
(The Temporary Speaker)
Next order.
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MOTION
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APPROVAL OF SENATORS TO SERVE IN SESSIONAL COMMITTEES
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Kipchumba Murkomen
(The Senate Majority Leader)
Mr. Temporary Speaker Sir, I beg to move the following Motion- THAT, pursuant to Standing Order No.189 (1) and 219, the Senate approves the following Senators nominated to serve in the Sessional Committee of the Senate as follows –
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COMMITTEE ON COUNTY PUBLIC ACCOUNTS AND INVESTMENTS
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(1) Sen. Fatuma Dullo, CBS, MP; (2) Sen. Kimani Wamatangi, MP; (3) Sen. Mithika Linturi, MP; (4) Sen. Kibiru Charles Reubenson, MP; (5) Sen. Omanga Millicent, MP; (6) Sen. Mohamed Faki, MP; (7) Sen. Ledama Olekina, MP; (8) Sen. Moses Kajwang’, MP; and (9) Sen. (Prof.) Sam Ongeri, EGH, MP.
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B. COMMITTEE ON DELEGATED LEGISLATION
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(1) Sen. Kang’ata Irungu, MP;
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(2) Sen. Prengei Victor, MP;
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(3) Sen. (CPA) Haji Farhiya Ali, MP;
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(4) Sen. Poghisio Samuel Losuron, EGH, MP;
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(5) Sen. Omanga Millicent, MP; (6) Sen. Judith Pareno, MP;
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(7) Sen. Mutinda Kabaka, MP;
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(8) Sen. Okong’o Omogeni, MP; and,
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(9) Sen. Mohamed Faki, MP.
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Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, these are very important committees of this House. First of all, the Senate County Public Accounts and Investments Committee performs a very important duty on behalf of this House in terms of oversight of counties and county governments. We want to note with appreciation the work they did in the last one year in terms of looking at accounts. There was a lot of backlog by the time they were being appointed to this Committee and the Senate expressed the desire to assist the Committee to expeditiously dispense their work. There have been a lot of concerns, particularly on how our money is being used in the counties. To quote the Senate Minority Leader when he spoke here the day before yesterday, there were concerns that we have been reduced to morticians. He also said this in the Senate Business Committee where I was with him. He said that what we do is just postmortem, yet we can avert the problems that are happening in our counties if we apply ourselves innovatively to other mechanisms of dealing with oversight, in fact, from the budgeting stage. I, therefore, agree with those who said that we need to look at the work of the Controller of Budget as part of our oversight responsibility. We need to look at what exactly is being budgeted in our counties and whether our counties are following those budgets. When they do supplementary budgets, what does that money go to? We must develop interest with what is happening in our counties and not just the populist kind of criticism of what is happening in our counties. We must be meticulous in what we do; we must work with professionals who can assist us to interrogate the budgets of our counties. The Controller of Budget should be a friend of the Senate and we should work closely with their representatives in the counties. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, now that we have the report of the Controller of Budget that I tabled in the House earlier, we must look at it with a keen eye. We need to find out to what extent they are supported financially, to what extent the Office of Controller of Budget is decentralized and available in our counties and how we can interrogate those budgets. Secondly, we also need to ensure that all budgets of counties. I remember that Sen. Wamatangi, in a conversation I had with him, was saying that we need to propose an amendment to the law to ensure that when the budgets are passed in our counties, they are tabled in this House not just with the Controller of Budget. This should be a requirement of law under the Public Finance Management Act. We should make an amendment to the Public Finance Management Act so that those budgets are deposited The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate.
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officially within the Senate. In fact, it will now be the work of the Committee on Finance and Budget--- As the County Public Accounts and Investments Committee is looking at the accounts, the Committee on Finance and Budget should be looking at all the budgets of all counties. This should be done with the assistance of the Senator of each county who will be able to point out the issues that are being raised by citizens in the counties. If we act innovatively, we will deal with the questions that many Kenyans are having about misappropriation of public funds in our counties. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I have heard many people, including my own Governor, complaining about the little amount of money that they receive in the counties. My Governor even went to the extent of saying that perhaps he wants Elgeyo-Marakwet County to be managed from Nairobi. Of course, that is preposterous, considering that we should be the ones who are defending devolution. Elgeyo-Marakwet County is better today because of the resources that were put in that county. If those funds were managed well, it would have been far much better. I reckon that Elgeyo-Marakwet County is among the last counties receiving money, but it is not the last one. I have gone to Lamu County, and I have seen that devolution has made a difference there. I went to Tana River County with the Committee on Devolution, and it has changed. If you go to Hola Town itself, the infrastructure has changed, including development and decision making. You cannot compare Tana River County now and six years ago when we did not have devolution. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, with the least amount of money that Isiolo County gets, there is still great improvement and change there. What if these counties were taking care of the resources? The Bible says- “To whom much is given, much is expected.” It also says in the parable of talents that he who had the least of the talents and did not put it to use because he felt that it was too little, even that little that he had was robbed from him and given to the one who had more and multiplied it. Therefore, our counties must first demonstrate that whatever little they get – in conformation with the formula that we have, which takes regard to the land that we have and the population of a county – they must demonstrate that they innovatively think of how to use that money to change the lives of the people of Kenya. This is so that when we say we want to be added more, we are celebrating that little that they have done. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, our counties should not be centres of lamentation. That is why the County Public Accounts and Investments Committee (CPAIC), particularly has a responsibility to look at the issues that are being raised by Kenyans. We have agreed that soon, in less than one month, we should have sat as a Senate to think through accountability and how to actually become proactive on matters of accountability so that these counties can be assisted to move forward. Therefore, other than the County Public Accounts and Investments Committee--- First of all, even before I go there, I just want to say, for the comfort of the people of The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate.
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Elgeyo-Marakwet County, that Elgeyo-Marakwet is not going to be wound up or managed from Nairobi. It is going to continue thriving and use the resources which, in the last six years it has received more than Kshs18 billion. This amount of money would never have landed in Elgeyo-Marakwet County had we continued with a centralized system of Government. Even as we work and negotiate in this House, because the decision as to how much will go to which county once the division of revenue has been done, is through a formula that we negotiate in this House. We will all be equitable in the manner in which we are going to allocate money. We are not going to rob Nairobi because of a higher population and say that we will put more money in Isiolo County because of their smaller population. We will use what the Constitution talks about; equitable allocation. We will interrogate the formulas that come to this House so well to ensure that everybody gets a fair share of what they get. Once that is done, Elgeyo-Marakwet County must continue performing its role as a county. In the next 100 years, it must be said that the leaders who were there were more focused on developing the area. I want to assure the people of Elgeyo-Marakwet County that even if someone wished to close the county, they would be unable to do so because the Constitution protects our counties. Even in the future when we want to amend the Constitution, it would be so difficult to do away with our counties because the people of Kenya have already fallen in love with their counties. Even when they have fallen apart with their leaders, they still love their counties. It must be distinguished that poverty of ideas and poverty of leadership does not translate into punishing of counties. What Elgeyo-Marakwet County and many counties in this country lack is not the poverty of money; it is the poverty of ideas and leadership. As a nation, we must become innovative. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, even on the question of nurses, when people talk and say that the wage bill is high, the solution is not in making noise. The solution is in interrogating the quality of staff that we have in our counties and do the necessary thing. Those who are not serving should be able to leave. How is it possible that we are complaining of increased wage bill in our counties, yet county executives continue to hire people to their offices; continue to have as many vehicles as they wish and have advisers who have absolutely no value addition to the counties? For instance, I saw in another county that a former Member of Parliament (MP) has been appointed in one of the counties in the western region to become an adviser of the Governor on emerging issues. Emerging issues are just nebulous concepts that you cannot even tell what is an emerging issue. You do not know whether it is about going to space, the use of internet or what it is all about. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, we should prudently channel our money to the human resource. I have no problem if we will pay a higher wage bill in our counties so that universal heath can be achieved. There is no way you can achieve universal health without a wage bill. You can talk about other sectors that you want to develop, but in the health sector, in my own opinion, is having the necessary---. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate.
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In my opinion, development in the health sector has the necessary doctors, nurses and health workers that are going to provide services. In fact, community health workers who are going to avert situations where you must take people to hospital and pay a lot of money while receiving treatment because you have good public officers or community health workers that are going to assist people in the counties live a healthy life.
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So, if that is going to be the highest wage bill in our counties, I have no problem, but that wage bill should not be people who are not going to add value to a service that is going to be given in the counties or people who are going to be hired to deal with political expediency.
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Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I have directly told our governors and not through proxy, that they must be courageous enough to hire competent people to run the county. I do not know - especially governors serving second terms - what is it they fear that they cannot sack County Executive Committee Members (CEC) who are incompetent; who cannot think, who cannot work? We also have chief officers who are just loitering.
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I can tell you that many Senators we have canvased with here will tell you that in their counties, people sit in offices as political reward. However, if you think about their addition to the economy of their counties, it is zero. In the counties we are rewarding incompetent people with jobs. We keep telling the President to sack national Government officers who are not performing. In the same manner, our governors must gather the courage to think about the future of their legacies and not just rewarding incompetent people with jobs. They can reward them in other ways but in terms of service delivery to our counties, we must tell our governors to be courageous, particularly second term governors. I see many senators who are here, their governors are serving second terms. We must push them because they can be lacklustre. We must push them to ensure that services are still being given to our people and that the county governments are not going to be reward centres where people are being rewarded without service being offered. I hope these are some of the things we will audit seriously when we go for the Devolution Conference next month because the conference has become deceptive as we progress to new ideas, but those ideas must be seen to be implemented. The same way the Senate Committee of Delegated Legislation does a good job to look at delegated legislation from the national Government and sometimes proposals from the Council of Governors. All these people; men and women, both in the two committee are competent enough and they have done a good job. However, I want to request our colleagues - because this is a sessional committee and I can see we have retained these people for two years consecutively - they must be courageous enough to perform their work this year. They must complete that which they think and have a dream of in that committee and be ready to give way for other people to serve in those committees, so that they do not become part of fixtures to the committee. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, some of these committees are so competitive and I do not know why people want to be there. I think they are really passionate about serving. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate.
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That is the only motive I can imagine. But there are many Senators who come to us; they go to the Senate Minority Leader and come to me and they want to serve in this committee. I want to urge my colleagues who are here - I have seen two of them who will serve in this committee - that you must be ready to give way for other persons to give it a try without feeling like---. I do not know where newspapers get these stories that if you change people in sessional committees, then it is a punishment because sessional committees are meant to be changed every year, but for continuity and for the good work that these committees have been doing, they can do this for this year but next year, if the Members insist that we want other people to give a try, learn and contribute to this committee, they must be ready to give way to other Members of the committee. It must not be interpreted to mean that anybody is being punished when you do not serve in any sessional committee. The opportunity will always come for you to do what you need to do. I beg to move and as the Senate Minority Leader to second.
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Steve Ltumbesi Lelegwe
(The Temporary Speaker)
The Senate Minority Leader.
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James Orengo
(The Senate Minority Leader)
Thank you. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I intend to be brief since this is one of the Procedural Motions that must take place at the beginning of every Session. As the Senate Majority Leader has pointed out, sessional committees are appointed at the beginning of every session. They are not standing committees appointed every 5 years. There is need for institutional memory and instability. It may be necessary in the sessional committees to appoint those who have served in those committees so that there is some synergy and stability in the work that goes on in that committee. Indeed, these sessional committees, and particularly the County Public Accounts and Investments Committee (CPAIC), do their work on the basis of performance of counties and the use of funds which have been devolved. Therefore, if you keep on changing the committees without institutional memory or some stability, their work may not be rendered effectively. Having said that, I want to say that CPAIC is so critical; it is one of the committees that I can say, directly draws from Article 96 of the Constitution in terms of oversight. Oversight is a very important role. In the past, when people thought about Parliament, they thought about legislation, and it being the instrument through which revenue is raised, taxation measures are approved and audit undertaken. However, oversight must be a continuous and permanent feature of governance, especially governance that takes place in the modern age. Sometimes there is something which happens in a flash and if you do not get abreast with it in good time, it may affect a nation for years. I would like to encourage CPAIC Members to ensure that they are on their toes all the time and do not wait for reports from the Auditor-General (AG), but develop mechanisms to have a way of oversighting counties and particularly the Executive and the county assemblies so that The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate.
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members of the public feel that these institution formed under the structure of Government that was proclaimed by this Constitution, works for the people. Mr. Temporary Speaker Sir, if you look at the principles and objectives of the devolved government, it is to provide services. Although we may be talking about the right to participation and democratic governance as being important pillars in devolution, the most important aspect of devolution is to provide services. The way some counties are run and the way some governors behave, it is as if counties must necessarily be a replication or a reflection of the national government. I think that should not be the case. The formulation of county governments must be service oriented. The other day I saw one of the governors - I thought this could only happen with respect to Baringo County - with an Aide-de-camp.
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James Orengo
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These are exhibitional trappings of power that are not in sync with devolution. A governor should be a person that should ordinarily appear in homes, be in fellowship with communities; churches, without showing the trappings of power in huge convoys. I think one the key failures we have experienced in the first 6 years or so of devolution, is that governors want those institutions to be reflected in the manner in which the presidency operates. If you read the Constitution, the Presidency is a representation of many other things which the county governors do not qualify to do. Therefore, I hope this committees should be able to look at the way governors and county governments operate. Are they people-friendly or are they are just another institution through which an imperial structure which we did away with under this Constitution has been retained at the county? I urge the County Public Accounts and Investment Committee (CPAIC) where Sen. M. Kajwang is the Chair and Sen. Olekina is a Member that, counties, just like the national Government, must operate within the Public Finance Management Act. The Act stipulates how county funds should be managed and county assemblies have a role. However, most of the time, there are constant violations of the Act. These things only come to light when there is a big problem not just in the loss of funds, but in the way finances of the counties are managed. We should have a way of tracking how decisions are made in the area of procurement which falls, to some extent, within the domain of the management of county finances. Therefore, I hope that we do not just look at the reports from the Auditor- General who is an instrumentality of Parliament; the National Assembly and the Senate. He acts as an agent of these two institutions to enable us to undertake or play the role that is enumerated by the Constitution. Therefore, we should go beyond the report of the Auditor-General and look at the operations of counties. It is my hope that, this time round, CPAIC will look for innovative ways to ensure that reports come to us within reasonable time as contemplated by the Constitution. In any case, not beyond 12 months after every financial year that is being audited. I know it The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate.
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is a toll order but I have been in discussion with Members of the Committee including the previous Chairman, who hopefully, will continue as Chairman. They are now in a position to come up with a better way of looking at those accounts on a timely basis so that we do not discuss reports of these accounts when it is already too late. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, secondly, the Committee on Delegated Legislation is a very important Committee. There are many laws that are made in this country through instruments by way of delegation. Delegation of the powers of Parliament to enact laws is envisaged under the Constitution, that Parliament can allow other institutions to make laws or regulations. However, if we are not careful, we may give many institutions the opportunity to make regulations that will affect the people or the way we run Government. Therefore, it is important that the Committee on Delegated Legislation is active so that we receive regular reports from them to ensure that even when some of these instruments have not been tabled before Parliament, they go out there and make sure that they are presented before the Senate. Therefore, I support and second this Motion and hope that the Committee will start its work. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I was told by Sen. M. Kajwang that we should be in a position to enable this Committee to meet even during the long recess in December because the Public Accounts Committee (PAC) in the National Assembly was working over the Christmas period yet our Committee could not be able to hold sittings. This should be looked into so that they have optimal time to consider these matters. with those remarks, I beg to support.
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Petronila Were Lokorio
Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, for giving me this opportunity to contribute to the Motion that approves Senators to serve in the sessional Committees, that is CPAIC and Committee on Delegated Legislation. The CPAIC is a very important Committee which helps to promote and strengthen devolution which has changed our counties for the better. However, that change comes with responsibility. Therefore, county governments need to know that they are accountable to the people that are represented by Senators who are here. Therefore, when they are called upon by this Committee, they are not called to be grilled as we are normally told; they are given a hearing so that they can explain how the funds that the Senate sends to them are utilised. Transparency and accountability are tenets of good governance and we cannot run away from them because we are a country of laws and that follows proper governance. Therefore, these tenets must be upheld. County Executive Committee (CEC) Members also have a responsibility to do their work. They should know that it is not just the governor who will be questioned by the CPAIC, they too have a responsibility. As the governor is called to this Committee, they hold the biggest responsibility because they were given that role by the governor. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate.
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I would also like us to assist Members of County Assembly (MCAs) who perform the primary oversight role of county governments so that by the time the work comes to the Senate through CPAIC, it has already been handled or looked at by county assemblies because they play the primary oversight role. The membership of the Committee on Delegated Legislation is apt and up to the job. I would like them to look at the regulations of laws that govern, especially the electoral process and political parties. We have various regulations that are needed to help us run political parties in the right way. Those regulations need to be worked on. I would urge the membership to this Committee to go out there and look for regulations that govern the political and electoral process in this country. I, therefore, support the membership to these committees. They are people who are up to the job and I wish them the best in the coming year. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I support.
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Steve Ltumbesi Lelegwe
(The Temporary Speaker)
Sen. Seneta, proceed.
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Mary Yiane Senata
Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, for giving me a chance to support this particular Motion. I want to congratulate all the Members of this Committee. I urge them to move with speed and look into the issues of finances in terms of allocation, expenditure and revenue collections in our counties. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, recently, we had an auditor’s report that came out during our recess that was discouraging to look at. This is because so many counties have spent a lot of money on travelling allowances, entertainment and salaries. We need to look at how we can reduce this expenditure and allocate more resources to development. The Committee needs to advise county governments on employment. Every day, we see adverts for employment in county governments. Do we really need this much workforce and do we have an allocation for it? Do we even have skilled workforce in our counties? Are we employing people who have no much work to do in the counties?” When we employ people who are idle and have no skills, we are promoting corruption. We should not employ people who will only be interested in tenders and stealing because they have no much work to do. I would urge my able Chairman, who is seated with us here, together with other Committee Members to relook at the recent General-Auditor’s report. We have faith in this membership. These are people we have worked with and they have a lot of concern for counties. I wish them all the best as they start their work. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I support.
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Rose Nyamunga Ogendo
Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, for giving me an opportunity also to congratulate the Members who are now being appointed for the second time to manage the two committees; that is, the CPAIC and Committee on Delegated Legislation. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, it is clear that the role of auditors all over the world, I being one of them, is to verify and certify the accounts. The certified accounts are meant to be given to the management, or may be in this case, county governments to help them make further decisions. The problem that we have had so far in our country is the lateness The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate.
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in the delivery of these reports. Last year, we were dealing with the Financial Year 2013/2014 accounts. We were addressing ourselves to history. The reports are supposed to give the management or the county governments an opportunity to make better decisions in the management of the resources. So far, we are getting of age in terms of devolution. Right now, we are in the sixth year of devolution. We, as a nation, we are educated. We understand what devolution is all about. We know what should be done and how best we can deliver services to our people. If we take so long to give these reports, it means that we will hide a lot. The example that I can give is the report that we had on land in Ruaraka. It was a serious thing. We saw the way people behaved in this House. If at this age and stage in life, a Committee can be subjected to or accused of corruption, then I do not know where we are heading as a country. Even in the case where everybody knows that something went wrong, we shot the report down without a wink, knowing very well that we are part and parcel of this corruption. I want to believe that these Members who have been nominated to the same Committees are above reproach. There comes a time in life where self does not become first. We have to put ourselves behind for us to perform and to be counted in the delivery of services. Therefore, this is a very big responsibility that we are giving the two Committees and more so, the CPAIC. We need people who are above reproach and will go beyond the timing. To me, time is very important. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, last time it was suggested that the numbers be increased, so that they can divide work in order for us to move faster. That has not been done here because the number remains the same. I do not know the speed at which we will move at, but it is important that we give reports on time. We also need to be above reproach, because the counties have been entrusted with a lot of money. It should, therefore, add value to our people. People should not live with the same problems. Talk of health or agriculture; they still have the same problems. We do not know if there is seriousness in the way our resources are being utilized. We have given a lot of money which we should also give seriousness when it comes to the accountability of the same. Above all, Kenyans should feel better than when the units were not devolved and everything was centralized. There were a lot of complaints. Now everybody has been given a government at the county level. Let the people feel the difference. It will be very unfortunate if we sit here, do the same things in the same way and expect to get better results. It cannot be. We need to have a changed attitude. We must have our people at heart. We must deliver services and exercise prudent use of resources. These resources come from the same people and fall in the hands of few people. The gap that we have between the rich and the poor is expanding; it is not narrowing. We need to narrow the gap between the rich and the poor by doing the right thing and using money properly. If you are given the responsibility to be accountable, please, be and let the people feel that their representatives they elected or voted for are doing a good job. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate.
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Rose Nyamunga Ogendo
I support the colleagues who have been nominated. However, let it be very clear that it is work, first of all. Secondly, it is about transparency and letting our people feel the difference. If something is wrong, let us say so and correct it. That is why we should have auditing. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, auditing should not there for the sake of it. It is meant to help us make better decisions and verify where the problems are so that we correct them and move on. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I thank you for the opportunity. I support.
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Steve Ltumbesi Lelegwe
(The Temporary Speaker)
Let us have. Sen. M Kajwang.
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Moses Otieno Kajwang'
Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I find myself in a difficult position because my name is listed as one of the Senators who have been proposed to sit in the CPAIC. However, having risen to talk to Motion, I have no other choice, but to support it because anything short of that would have meant that I wish my name to be expunged from that list.
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Moses Otieno Kajwang'
I have had the privileged of serving in this Committee in the last Session and the greater privilege of chairing it.
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Moses Otieno Kajwang'
Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I am privileged that the team that I served with in the previous Session, is still the same that we are going to serve with next Session if this House approves the Motion. It cannot get any better. It is a team that has been dedicated and put in a lot of hours. In the last Session, we reported to this House that the Committee had a total of 94 sittings.
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Moses Otieno Kajwang'
However, I will not want to get into what we have achieved or the challenges that we faced. This is because in September, 2018 when the House met in Eldoret in Uasin Gishu County, I presented to the Senate Business Committee (SBC) the achievements and challenges that Committee had registered. On 4th of December, 2018 in this House, I presented a report on the achievements and challenges of the Committee.
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Moses Otieno Kajwang'
Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, you recall that on 4th of December, 2018, the Speaker ruled that the report that I has submitted ought to be have been tabled in the House. I assure the Chair that it shall be tabled in the House as directed by the Speaker.
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Moses Otieno Kajwang'
Further, the Speaker ruled that the Committee should hold further discussions with the Senate Business Committee (SBC) to see better ways of streamlining and fast tracking the scrutiny and reporting to the Senate. I assure the Chair that it will happen.
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Moses Otieno Kajwang'
Finally, I am excited that we seem to be putting in place a proper framework for monitoring and evaluation. Audits by their nature are post-mortems. The duty and mandate of the CPAIC as captured in the Standing Orders is postmortem in nature. If we integrate a monitoring and evaluation framework and do it properly, we will been able to respond and deal with the issues that are current and alive.
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Moses Otieno Kajwang'
I congratulate and support the Senators who had been nominated to sit in the Committee on Delegated Legislation.
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Moses Otieno Kajwang'
Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I urge the Members of this Committee to guide this House appropriately, so that no single statutory instrument that touches on county The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate.
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Moses Otieno Kajwang'
governments escapes the scrutiny of the Senate. This is because in the last Session and in the past Parliaments, we have seen a situation where it is believed that all statutory instruments should be treated by the National Assembly. We need to assert ourselves because it is inconceivable to think of any statutory instrument or legislation that will not impact on counties or people living there.
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Moses Otieno Kajwang'
I support.
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Erick Okong'o Mogeni
Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I also rise in support of the Motion which is before the House on the membership of the Senate CPAIC. This Committee does a very important role in terms of oversighting the expenditure of the money that we send to our counties.
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Erick Okong'o Mogeni
I congratulate the leadership for having chosen to retain the Members who were serving in the Committee last Session at least for purposes of institutional memory and continuity. I challenge the Members who are serving in the Committee to be innovative and pragmatic. Corruption is a white collar crime. There will always be effort and attempts to ensure that people who steal and embezzle public money that is meant for development, that they hide their tracks. However, we must be innovative. I am not a Member of the CPAIC, but those who are privileged to serve in it must be custodians of the public money that we send to our counties. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, the people who enacted the Kenya Constitution in 2010, what they had in mind is transformation of the lives of the people who live in the counties. Some of the most key functions were devolved, including health. However, we find cases where even medicine that is meant to be supplied to hospitals is sold to private business people. It was saddening to see what I saw in Machakos the other day. The Governor of Machakos, Dr. Alfred Mutua was acting helpless when he was raiding a chemist that is right opposite the county headquarters. This is something that is replicated virtually in all counties. Unless we send a very strong message to people who are in the county governments that it is painful and it will not be beneficial to embezzle money that is meant to provide services to wananchi, there will be a state of hopelessness. Most of us who go to counties, people look at the Senators as the only people they can trust to protect public resources. It will be very unfortunate and almost a disaster, if we lose that faith and confidence that we enjoy from the people we serve. I want to urge Members of this Committee to live up to the expectations of our people. We want to see blood, where money is being lost. Where we are having ghost projects we might bring these things to the attention of the people we serve. I hope we will be empowered or well-resourced as Senators to undertake our role of oversight. I hope that we will shift our gear from just sitting in Nairobi and going through the reports by the Auditor-General to extend these sessions to our counties. Most of the queries that are raised by the Auditor-General are things we can verify by making physical visit to our counties. I sat in the session that grilled my Governor from Nyamira. I remember we made an undertaking to the people of Nyamira The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate.
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that come this new session that we will be able to physically visit Nyamira County and make an assessment on the projects where the Auditor-General has raised queries. These queries relate to the services of people from that particular county. If we just sit in Nairobi and file our reports, we will never have impact. I hope that the Members who are very able, who have been nominated and privileged to serve in this Committee will put our governors and the people who serve in our counties to account. We, as Senators, will continue to be alert in terms of oversighting our governors. We will be keen to see how they spend resources that are sent to the counties. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, with those remarks I support.
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Steve Ltumbesi Lelegwe
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Sen. Samson Ongeri
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Sam Ongeri
Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. Let me also add my voice. I am a Member of that Committee. From the experiences that we have had in serving the last CPAIC, it is quite a thankless job as it were in many respects because you spend many hours being able to interrogate issues that may have happened some five, six, seven years ago and small of a postmortem exercise rather than the ant-mortem exercise itself. We are all mandated by the Constitution to oversight the performances and the dealings of county assemblies and the county government. We are to look at what they are doing and how they are functioning in the various aspects, especially the public finance management ethos. If I had a way, I would suggest that we have an ad hoc Committee at some stage so as to be up to date with the issues that are outstanding in terms of audit. We can be split into various groups that would go to various counties so as to update the auditing process and bring it up to speed in order for us to discuss the audit reports that directly affect the incumbency; those who are in power. You can only interrogate the services of those in power. The idea of monitoring and evaluation Committee and implementation Committee would be a useful addition to speed up some of these things. We could also convert, if the Senate Majority Leader and the Senate Minority Leader are in agreement, the whole Senate into an ad hoc Committee of auditing the report, as I said earlier, for us to bring them up to speed. Right now, we are on 2013/2014. God knows when we shall interrogate 2017 accounts. We need to be there for us to deal with current issues. I am a Member of that Committee. I cannot speak for myself, except to accept the honour bestowed upon us to serve in that Committee and to serve diligently as required by the law. Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir.
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Ledama Olekina
Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, for giving me the opportunity to also contribute to the Motion of approving the Senators, which includes myself, to serve in these two very important Sessional Committees. Like my former Chairperson said earlier on, I had an opportunity to sit in almost 90 sittings where we looked at voluminous documents coming from different county governments. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate.
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Ledama Olekina
One thing that, this House and the general public need to understand is that as a Committee, there is very little that we can change because we cannot change what the Auditor-General has already established. The biggest problem that we have is on the issue of implementation. I would want to urge my colleagues in this House to take their time to look at the reports of the Auditor General. I saw the documents that were tabled in this House yesterday. We have about 20 reports. We will have to sit down and look at them then come up with recommendations at the end of the day that have got to be implemented. However, we do not have an implementation Committee. We need that committee in place for us to work diligently and have the people who are in the county governments who expect us to call their governors here to explain how they spent the money satisfied. There is huge misconception out there where people expect us to call a governor at any time and have them come. I wish we could do that, but the reality is that we have a lot of backlog. The first Committee did not do much because there was a fight between the Governors and the Senators, which eventually the Supreme Court was able to pronounce itself on. I want to thank the leadership for looking at the work that we did last year. They consequently proposed that they retain us for another year; that is a lot of honour. Everyone in this House and the public should ensure that there is fiducial responsibility. There is a lot that we can do. That Committee last year – and I hope we will be able to do that this time around – worked on a fiduciary risk report. The report was very clear that in most county governments, the governors were not following the Public Audit Act, the Public Procurement and Disposal Act and even the Public Finance Management (PFM) Act. I, therefore, hope that this time around, as we sit here and say, “I wish that the County Public Accounts and Investments Committee (CPAIC) can do their job faster;” it behoves all of us, as Senators, to look at the Auditor-General’s Report. There is a lot of confusion between the Auditor-General and the Controller of Budget. I have a Bill in this House, which I hope particularly the Senate Majority Leader will support me on. It is the County Oversight Bill. This is a Bill that was fought heavily by the governors during the public participation exercise because they do not want to be questioned on how they are using their money. We are talking about involving the Controller of Budget. I was listening very keenly to the Senate Majority Leader when he was saying that the Controller of Budget ought to be a friend of this House; it is true. However, we ought to reduce this into legislation. We have to involve the communities out there in the budget making process. Currently, our communities are not involved in this process. You will find that even Members of County Assemblies (MCAs) will start talking about their Ward Development Fund. We can do away with this argument of ward development funds if we involve the community in the budget making process. Consequently, each MCA will be saying: “At the end of the day, I expect that certain projects will be delivered by this county government that I serve in.” The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate.
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Ledama Olekina
Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, as we move into this second term – and I hope the House will approve our nomination – we commit to expedite certain reports. I have always suggested to my colleagues that when we look at reports of Financial Years 2013/2014 and 2015/2016, there is really nothing that can change. In fact, I was suggesting that we just adopt those reports as they are, because we are looking at only the executive; we have not even looked at the assembly. Therefore, the amount of work in that Committee really requires people to be committed to sit even during recess so that we can catch up. As I wind up, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, there are three key legislations that even governors out there ought to know. Number one, the Public Audit Act is very clear. Number two, the PFM Act is very clear. Therefore, if you violate both the Public Audit Act and the PFM Act, when you come to us, the only thing we will do is to remind you of that and, of course, recommend that you face the consequences as stipulated in Article 226 of the Constitution. With those few remarks, I beg to support.
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Steve Ltumbesi Lelegwe
(The Temporary Speaker)
I call upon the Mover to reply.
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Kipchumba Murkomen
(The Senate Majority Leader)
Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I thank everybody for the wonderful suggestions. I am glad that particularly three Members from CPAIC are here. I believe that they have taken into consideration the many praises that they have received from the Members here and they will deliver again in their second term in this Committee. We will give them our maximum support. We believe that they are our first point of consultation. If we want any advice on how to go about matters of oversight, this is the Committee that we will work closely with, together with the Committee on Delegated Legislation. As Sen. M. Kajwang’ said, their responsibility now is to work hard in order to seize their place in interrogating delegated legislation. This is so that it does not become one way of robbing this House of its constitutional mandate by hiding behind delegated legislation to avoid matters that concern counties to be discussed under one House. Having said that, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I want to thank everybody. I beg to reply.
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Steve Ltumbesi Lelegwe
(The Temporary Speaker)
Hon. Senators, we have determined that this Motion does not affect counties. Therefore, voting will be by voice. I will, therefore, put the question.
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(Question put and agreed to)
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Steve Ltumbesi Lelegwe
(The Temporary Speaker)
Let us go to the next Order.
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MOTION
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APPROVAL OF THE SENATE CALENDAR FOR THE 2019 SESSION The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate.
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Susan Wakarura Kihika
Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I beg to move the following Motion- THAT, pursuant to Standing Order 29(1) this House approves the Senate Calendar (Regular Sessions of the Senate) for the Year 2019 (Third Session, February to December, 2019), laid on the Table of the House on, Wednesday, 13th February, 2019.
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Susan Wakarura Kihika
Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, it is important that as a House, we have a calendar so that we know what is expected of us and where we are supposed to be. This should not just be for Senators but also members of the public who are welcome here to observe our sittings and participate by bringing petitions, or whatever it is that they need to do. I think a calendar really helps as far as setting the pace on what is going on at any given time is concerned; whether we are sitting or on recess.
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Susan Wakarura Kihika
Looking at the Calendar, it has taken into account some of the major events that will be coming up in this Third Session of the Senate, such as the Annual Devolution Conference, which will be held in March this year. The Calendar has taken that into account.
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Susan Wakarura Kihika
We also have another big event, which is the Annual Legislative Summit that will be held in April. It is obvious that, that has been taken into account, so that it does not happen during sitting days, in order to allow us to participate without interrupting House business.
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Susan Wakarura Kihika
Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, in putting the Calendar together, we have taken into account the major deadlines that we have as the Senate. Those are for legislations such as the County Allocation of Revenue Bill. The sitting days take into account the deadlines, so that we are in the House when that is supposed to happen. In addition, there is The Division of Revenue Bill, which is very important as it has guidelines and deadlines. Given the way the Calendar has been structured, we shall be able to deal with it. We should be able to deliver within the days that we have our sittings in relation to the deadlines that we have for these important pieces of legislation. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, we also have the Budget Policy Statement (BPS) and the Medium-Term Debt Strategy that will be brought to the Senate. Looking at the Calendar, it is quite obvious that dates were not just picked and pasted to be the sitting days or recess days. Much thought has been put into it, so that the business of this House will run smoothly during this Third Session of the Senate. Therefore, this Calendar is wonderful because it is a good roadmap for the Senate and will guide us very well. It will also give enough time for Members to bring their Bills in addition to the Government Bills, Motions, Petitions and all other pieces of legislation, so that we can keep our business going. Mr. Temporary Speaker Sir, the recess dates will also help Senators to handle one of the very critical mandates, which is to go back to their counties and engage with their electorate. With the recess dates being what they are, it gives us room, so that we are not just stuck in Nairobi. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate.
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Susan Wakarura Kihika
Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I beg to move and request Sen. Olekina, who is my neighbor, to second.
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Ledama Olekina
Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I rise to second the Motion on the Calendar of the House. I got an opportunity to look at the Calendar as I sit in the Senate Business Committee and realized that it has taken into consideration the time that we will be away for the Devolution Conference, which is very important and also the Legislative Summit. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, one of the most important things that I would like to urge fellow Members is that when we are on recess, let us do all those trips, but during the time we are supposed to be here, let us come here so that we can conclude all the business that is in the House. With those remarks, I support the Motion.
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(Question proposed)
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Steve Ltumbesi Lelegwe
(Mr. Temporary Speaker)
Hon. Senators, there being no request from you, I will proceed to put the question.
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(Question put and agreed to)
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Steve Ltumbesi Lelegwe
(The Temporary Speaker)
Next Order!
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BILL
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Second Reading
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THE COUNTY GOVERNMENTS RETIREMENT SCHEME BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO.10 OF 2018)
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Hon. Senators, I defer Order No.17 to the next sitting.
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(Bill deferred)
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ADJOURNMENT
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Steve Ltumbesi Lelegwe
(The Temporary Speaker)
Hon. Senators, there being no other business, it is now time to adjourn the House. The Senate, therefore, stands adjourned until Tuesday, 19th February, 2019, at 2.30 p.m.
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Steve Ltumbesi Lelegwe
(The Temporary Speaker)
The Senate rose at 6.27 p.m.
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Steve Ltumbesi Lelegwe
(The Temporary Speaker)
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