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"content": "Asante, Bw. Spika wa Muda kwa kunipa fursa hii kuchangia Mswada huu kuhusu huduma za maktaba katika kaunti zetu. Kwanza, ningependa kumpongeza The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only.A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and Audio Services,Senate."
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"content": "Sen. Joyce Korir kwa kazi nzuri aliyofanya. Hakuna kitu hata kimoja kwa wakati huu ambacho kinazuia magavana wa kaunti zetu kuhakikisha kuwa kuna maktaba katika kila wadi katika kaunti zetu. Yote tisa, kumi ni ukweli. Nakubaliana na Sen. (Prof.) Kamar kuwa mwacha mila ni mtumwa. Vile alivyosema, ukisoma Kipengee cha tatu inamaanisha kwamba tutakuwa tunahifadhi desturi na mila zetu. Vile vile, ukiangalia Kipengee cha tano, kuna vile ambavyo ameeleza kinagaubaga kwamba kutakuwa na kamati itakayoshughulikia maktaba. Kwa hivyo, mambo hayatafanywa kiholela. Kuna watu ambao watapatiwa jukumu na kazi yao itakuwa kufuatilia na kuona kwamba kuna maktaba katika kaunti zetu. Wengi wamesema kwamba wengi wa vijana wetu hawajishughulishi na mambo ya masomo. Utapata mtu amezama kwenye simu yake ya rununu na mambo anayosoma hayawezi kudhibitishwa. Vitabu ambavyo viko katika maktaba zetu vimedhibitishwa na vinakubalika. Kwa hivyo, vijana wetu wanapotembelea maktaba zetu, watakuwa wanasoma mambo ya kuelimisha. Hayo ni mambo ambayo yamekaguliwa katika nchi yetu ya Kenya na kwa hivyo mila na desturi zetu zitakuwa zikizingatiwa. Vipindi vinavyonyeshwa katika televisheni zetu ni vile ambavyo vimeangaliwa na vinakubalika. Unapotumia simu ya rununu, utapata kuwa mambo ambayo wanasoma pale hayakubaliki. Mila zetu zinaendelea kuisha. Nakubaliana na viongozi wengine ambao wameongea mbele yangu kwamba itaendeleza ujuzi wa vijana wetu. Huo ni ujuzi ambao unafaa kwa sababu unawezapata ujuzi ambao haufai. Mswada huu unanuia kupatia kaunti zetu nguvu kamili. Waziri anayehusika na mambo ya masomo atahakikisha kwamba kuna maktaba katika sehemu zote. Ijapokuwa naupigia upato Mswada huu, naomba magavana wetu, hata kabla ya Mswada huu kupita, waangalie vipengee hivi na kuanza kutekeleza majukumu haya katika kaunti zetu. Nchi ambayo haina ujuzi au vijana wasiosoma ni nchi ambayo inaendelea kuwa na upungufu. Kwa hivyo, naunga mkono Mswada huu kuwa tunafaa kuwa na maktaba katika kaunti zetu. Ni vyema ieleweke na kuwekwa paruwanja. Naomba Sen. Korir aweze kuangalia"
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"content": "Information and Communication Technology (ICT) centres"
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"content": "zitapewa nafasi ipi katika maktaba zetu. Teknolojia inaendelea kuimarika na vitu vipya vinaendelea kuchipuka. Ukisoma kitabu kipya leo, utapata kuwa mambo mapya yametokea. Mtu akisoma kitabu in hardcopy na mwingine asome in soft copy, yule wa soft copy anapata vitu vipya kwa sababu uzinduzi unaendelea kufanyika kila siku. Sisi tunaendelea kupambana kule kwetu Laikipia. Ukienda mahali kama Rumuruti au Salama, pengine tumeweka pale maktaba kulingana na jinsi Sen. Korir angetaka. Kuna vitabu pale. Nilipokuwa katika chuo kikuu, ungepata kuwa makala ambayo lecturer anakuja nayo yalikuwa yametumika kufunza watu kwa zaidi ya miaka 18. Mambo yamebadilika ilhali sisi tunaendelea kusoma mambo hayo hayo. Ni vyema tujue jinsi tutapanga maktaba zetu tukizingatia usasa kwa sababu teknologia tayari imekuja na iko pamoja nasi. Unaweza tu kuketi na kusomewa kitabu na kuelewa badala ya kwenda kwenye maktaba. Kwa mfano, pengine kuna maktaba The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only.A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and Audio Services,Senate."
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"content": "Mbagathi. Naweza kukaa tu hapa katika ofisi yangu. Nikiwa kwenye tarakilishi yangu, naweza kupata mambo yote. Mambo ambayo nasoma kwenye tarakilishi ni mpya kushinda kitabu kililchoandikwa. Kwa hivyo, Bw. Spika wa Muda, naomba Sen. Korir aangalie jinsi atakavyoingiza mambo ya teknolojia katika maktaba zetu."
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"speaker_name": "Sen. Wakili Sigei",
"speaker_title": "The Temporary Speaker",
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"content": " Asante sana, Sen. Kinyua. Sasa nampa nafasi Sen. Osotsi ili naye pia achangie."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, for this opportunity to also make my contribution to the County Library Services Bill (Senate Bills No.40 of 2024). From the onset, I support this Bill. However, I will also express my reservations which can lead to amendments to this Bill. As you know, library services is one of the services that are devolved and as Sen. Kinyua has said, our counties should not wait for a legislation like this one, for them to start having libraries in their counties. They need to have developed library services in all the 47 counties. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, the drafters of the Constitution had a good reason why they wanted libraries to be devolved. Perhaps, they were taking cognizance of the fact that most counties have diversities. We have community diversities, interests and cultural issues which can be organized at the county level. Therefore, having this Bill, which hopefully will become an Act of Parliament if passed by the two Houses, is important towards achieving that agenda. This Bill proposes to establish libraries in each county. It also proposes to establish the county library development committees in each county. This will ensure that our people have access to library services. If you look at the object of the Bill, it also proposes to promote literacy, support education, cultural and research activities, as well as ensure the preservation of cultural heritage of the counties for future generations. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, this is very important especially in this era where most of our children are forgetting the indigenous languages. They only speak Kiswahili and English, and cannot speak mother tongue. Libraries will provide the necessary facilities for them to read the mother tongue books and understand their language, so that they can communicate. This will also help in preserving our mother tongue in our various counties. Libraries should also be a source for cultural knowledge so that our youth can go there, learn about their culture and be educated. However, as we talk about libraries, we also need to have a futuristic thinking on how these libraries will be operating. In the traditional library, there were books and people would come in, read the books, borrow and take them home. However, that is changing, because of technology, interest and generally because reading should not be punitive. Reading should be enjoyable and fun. It should be accompanied by other entertainment aspects. I remember when I was in school, we would go to our library and stay there the whole day. We would sit in the cold library hall, read and leave. There would be no lunch or entertainment. However, in the modern day, people want to read in an environment where they can enjoy the reading, where they can access refreshments, listen to music and generally be in an environment that is conducive to make reading not look punitive but entertaining. All the same, libraries are key to developing a reading culture in this country. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only.A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and Audio Services,Senate."
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"content": "Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, we have a serious problem in Kenya. We are deteriorating as a nation in terms of a reading culture. Most of our youth do not read books anymore. Even our adults do not read books anymore. If you ask someone how many books he or she has read in a month, you will realize that they only read the newspaper, WhatsApp, or on internet. You will realize that they do not read books. That is not a good culture for the future of this country. If we have these library services across the country, perhaps it will promote a reading culture. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I agree with Sen. Kinyua that, even as we talk about libraries, let us also take cognizance of the fact that technology is here and is actually declaring everything redundant. The people who work in the media will tell you, for example, in the print media, the newspaper sales have gone down sharply. The Daily Nation and the Standard newspapers or any other newspaper are making fewer sales, and that situation is getting worse by the day. Why? This is because digital spaces are available where people can get access to the same news that newspapers are publishing. By the time the newspaper is printed and delivered, that news is already stale. People have already accessed the news on the digital platform. That is why the newspaper sales are going down and the media is on the verge of collapsing, especially the print media. This is a matter that we need to look at. The same applies to libraries. Why would I spend my time going to library shelves to look for a book, spend almost an hour searching for the right book to read, yet on my phone and using Artificial Intelligence (AI) technology, I can quickly access a book that I want to read, even borrow online and pay for it? So, even though we are encouraging counties to have libraries, soon, once these libraries are started, they will become redundant and you will never see even a single person going there to read a book. So, even as we pass this Bill, let us take cognizance of technology, especially AI technology. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, AI technology is going to drive many people out of business. Even at the universities, professors are now careful how to manage students because students are able to go to AI, read everything, ask any question and it is answered. They do not need someone to stand before them and start telling them anything because AI is there for them. Almost every sector is going to be affected by artificial intelligence. The library sector is one of the sectors that is going to face extinction because of AI. So, as we pass this Bill, let us note that it needs to take cognizance of growth in technology, especially artificial intelligence. You use the artificial platform and they use artificial intelligence algorithm to do a search. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, if you want a book that maybe talks about the Luhya culture, within a few seconds, you will have that book there. That is how Amazon Books work. If you go to Amazon Books, you can buy a book on any title that you want. You can even rent a book on any title and read it. Therefore, when the proposal of this Bill goes back, she should look at what is happening in the digital environment, especially in AI, as far as library management is concerned. We will pass this Bill and our counties are going to invest in libraries, but those libraries might become useless after a short time. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only.A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and Audio Services,Senate."
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"content": "I am also very uncomfortable with the idea of having a county library services development committee in each county. We are fighting our counties because of the high wage bill. Every county has surpassed their wage bill limit of 35 percent. Most are even beyond 80 percent because of the expenditure on employees and people which is a recurring expenditure. If we develop our laws, and in those laws, we call for the establishment of committees with a secretariat, we are simply ballooning the wage bill. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, our role is to oversight these counties so as to ensure that they comply with the law, especially on the wage bill limit of 35 percent. However, when we pass this kind of bills, we contradict our position as a Senate. Therefore, I would want to dissuade the proposal of this Bill to drop the idea of a committee. You do not need a committee to decide for you which book to buy. You do not need a committee to arrange books in a shelf or to manage a library. We have a department with a CECM, chief officers and staff. What will they be doing? That is their work. They need to coordinate and manage that. I would like to dissuade the Mover of this Bill to drop the idea of the committees. This will just give people an opportunity to earn, get allowances and basically to do nothing. This problem is even coupled with the AI technology. You will have a library there that is not functioning because people do not go there and you have a committee that is earning allowances for doing nothing. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I implore that we drop the idea of a committee and the functions of the committee be handled by the relevant CECM of that function of libraries. In that way, we will be saving our counties money that can be directed to other functions because our counties are becoming employment bureaus. If you have a situation where 80 percent although some counties go up to 90 percent of the budget going to recurrent expenditure, then we are not doing well in terms of devolution. Therefore, the Bills and policies that we pass must be designed in such a way that we will not be pushing counties to incur more recurrent expenditure because it beats the purpose of having counties where there is no development happening and people are just working and earning salaries. Employment is good but that was not the major reason why counties were created. The major reason counties were created was to become economic units for the development of various counties and the overall development of the country. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I therefore inform Commissioner Korir that the idea of the committee may look good, but it has a cost implication. Also, if you look at the functions, you wonder why we need to have a committee. The same CECM who is supposed to be managing this library will be now a committee member earning a salary and also earning an allowance in the same committee. It does not make sense at all. The major thing is the aspect of technology. If we do not think technology, technology will be ahead of us. Technology does not wait for us. Yesterday, when I was contributing to a statement here, I said that for this country to grow in terms of technology, we will need to look at the way the Ministry of Information, Communications and Telecommunications is being run. I said this Ministry is being run by people who are clueless, they are not Information and Communications Technology (ICT) experts. We, therefore, cannot make progress. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only.A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and Audio Services,Senate."
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"content": "I am happy that some people have called me today and have told me that I was too harsh on them, but sometimes it is important for us to say the truth about these things. We need to see progress. For example, if we want to digitalize these libraries, we need to ensure there is infrastructural growth in the counties. Terrestrial technology in terms of communication must be expanded. Fiber optics, the so-called superhighway, should also be expanded so that technology is available because these libraries are going to be based on technology. Therefore, something has to be done. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I do not want to spend all the time because I can see my colleagues also want to contribute. I support, but I insist that we should not focus too much on brick and mortar. We also need to look at technology and technology is here with us. We cannot run away from technology. Our investments must take cognizance of technology."
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