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"speaker_name": "Sen. Olekina",
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"content": "Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. I rise to support this Bill, the amendment to the Sports Act. As I do so, I am a firm believer that for us to get any sort of progress, we must consult county governments. We are the House that protects devolution. We are the House that fights for more resources to go to counties. I was agonising on how these funds can be set aside, knowing very well that the Constitution is quite clear when it comes to the issues of shareable revenue that is set aside for the county governments. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "Last year, we passed the Facility Improvement Fund (FIF). When we did that, it colluded with other funds that exist in counties. Now, as I support this fund, I am alive to the fact that county assemblies determine what sort of funds to set up. Once they do, you will find that a lot of counties have so many funds that exist. In fact, one of the biggest problems we have been having is how we collapse all these funds. We talk about the funds which are set up approved under Section 116 of the PFM Act. They are time- bound. You know, funds will be there for up to 10 years. This is a very noble idea that Sen. Sifuna has brought. However, we have to think thoroughly on how we will make sure we implement it. Counties are suffering. The money that we are setting aside, we are sending to counties. If we send one per cent of the money that is being sent to Narok County to promote sports, it will be difficult for the county to carry out other activities. I am a firm believer that we should not be reducing the money that we are already sending out to counties or forcing county governments to set aside one per cent of their resources for sports activities. I think we need to look at the additional allocation funds, the funds from the national Government or the funds from the Consolidated Fund. I want to persuade my brother, Sen. Sifuna, that we find a way to amend this law and not require counties to set aside one per cent of the little money that we are sending to them to finance sports. Let us find a way how we can get one per cent from the Consolidated Fund. When we do so, we will be sending more money to our counties. I know how painful it is for young men who are trying to nurture their talent to call their Senators to asking for financial support. I know how painful it is when we have sports in our counties which are not funded either by private sector or counties. In the wisdom of the county assemblies, when they are agonizing on how to budget the small resources that they have, they decide that sports might not be a necessity. So, I am agonizing on where this one per cent of resources will come from."
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"content": "Madam Temporary Speaker, when you look at the Constitution, a share of revenue of county government raised by the national Government is sent directly and it is budgeted. Section 109 of the Public Finance Management (PFM) Act, which is still Article 207, talks about how that money should be sent. Article 116 of the PFM Act discusses about how funds can be set up. When we set up the FIF, we created a conflict. This is because, the PFM Act sets up the treasurer of the County Assembly or the County Executive Committee Member (CECM) in charge of Finance and Economic Planning as the person in charge of all the resources. He is the one who has the fiduciary responsibility and the Authority to Incur Expenditure (AIE) holder. On the FIF Fund, we introduce a new concept where the CECM or the Chief Executive Officer (CEO) in charge of Health dictates how that money will be spent. We need to be careful on how we develop this fund. I fully support this. However, I would like to request Sen. Sifuna to look at it and amend Clause 54(b) which says-"
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"content": "“There shall be paid into the county sports association fund, one per cent of all monies paid into the County Revenue Fund.” I have a problem with that. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "Given the fact that this is a piece of legislation that has to go to both Houses of Parliament, in my opinion, we need to widen it up and request a particular percentage to look at how much we need from the Consolidated Fund so that we can make this Bill proactive. Madam Temporary Speaker, I have gone across Nairobi City County. I am quite impressed by the role the private sector has played in setting up fields where people can go and nurture their talent. I hope that when we are talking about this fund, whoever will fund it or however it will be funded, we can clearly indicate how many fields should be set up. If this one per cent, for instance, Nairobi County gets about Kshs20 billion, then one per cent of Kshs20 billion is Kshs200 million. Narok County gets about Kshs10 billion. Approximately, one per cent of the population in Nairobi City County is about Kshs7 million. Would Kshs200 million proportionally be enough to support sporting activities in Nairobi City County? No. Madam Temporary Speaker, perhaps Kshs100 million might be enough to support a population of 1.5 million in Narok County, but in Nairobi City County, it will not. So, I am of the idea that we try and get resources from the Consolidated Fund. I wish that my brother, Sen. Sifuna, will look for a champion in the ‘lower’ House so that they can discuss, particularly when we are going through the budget-making process, so that we can set that money aside. Right now, when you need a road from somewhere, if you know the Committee on Finance and Budget, you can go discuss and say we need a road here. We just need to be able to negotiate. It is important. I like the fact that the Bill is proposing a situation whereby we recognize registered county sports associations. It is important that each one of us here, as Senators, really try to understand what associations are there and what support do they have. Can we talk to the private sector as well? The Government may not be able to do everything with the little resources that we have. Today, we are talking about borrowing from the World Bank approximately Kshs100 billion. Of course, the World Bank has their own stringent measures. They want us to pass legislation that will be uncomfortable to most of us. So, it makes it very difficult. We need to figure out how we tap in and encourage Corporate Social Responsibility (CSR) from all those entities that are working or doing business in our counties. We could try to see whether we could include a particular amount, maybe that one per cent could be added in the fees for licenses. Some people might say it is over taxation. However, we have to be creative enough because the money that we are sending from the national Government is not enough to support these counties. I would like us to be a bit creative. Madam Temporary Speaker, it is imperative that we become creative. I am saying this because earlier on, we were discussing about the tariffs which have been imposed by the current President of the USA, Donald Trump. I see that as an opportunity. I actually thank him because it is about time that we realign our own existing resources to build our economies. We are relying on the West so much and lamenting that those tariffs will have a big impact on us. On the contrary, I see it as an opportunity. We have a lot of resources The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "which are exploited by foreign entities. Suppose we look back and say, how is our mining sector? Can we get some money from the mining sector? I would like Sen. Sifuna to be creative in this Bill and look at areas where there are royalties which are paid. Those royalties are never paid to the local community. We find that there are individuals who go in and collude with those so-called investors or miners. Consequently, when the money which is supposed to go to the community comes in, it goes into private pockets. It is happening in Narok County where you find former and current leaders; people who are connected in the community, go to bed with foreigners or miners and collect the resources in millions. In fact, I know one. There is a company called Kilimapesa. Right now, we are fighting so hard to ensure that the money which is supposed to be paid to the residents of Kilgoris, Lolgorian Ward, does not go into private pockets. There is a danger that the money might go into a few people who consider themselves as a committee. They are given like Kshs100 million, pocket and share it among themselves. We need to be creative. Madam Temporary Speaker, I would like Sen. Sifuna to look at this Bill. We cannot have one solution for the 47 counties. Let us look at Taita Taveta County, for instance. Taita Taveta County has a lot of minerals. Can we work with the state departments and figure out, when we have a picture of Kenya, what resources do we have in this country. How do we make sure that we tap those resources to build our talent and be able to help us? The more the youth or even us go out there and exercise, we live a better life. We need these resources. We just need to be able to think outside the box and extend our eye to where every single penny is coming from. For example, in Samburu County, there are a lot of mining activities going on there. Who is benefiting? Not the Samburu people, but the people who come in there, and team up with some people in Nairobi. In Migori County, residents are not benefitting from proceeds of gold. We just need to be a bit creative on how we will fund this proposed sports association fund. If we become creative and extend the areas of sourcing funds, what Sen. Sifuna is proposing will become something which can be actionable. However, if we rely on the shareable revenue, we may not succeed. I thank you."
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"speaker_name": "Sen. Mumma",
"speaker_title": "The Temporary Speaker",
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"content": " Sen. Chimera, please, proceed."
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"content": "Asante, Bi. Spika wa Muda kwa kunipa fursa hii. Kwanza, ningependa kumpongeza Sen. Edwin Sifuna kwa huu Mswada wake. Huu ni Mswada wa maana sana kwa vijana wetu ambao wanariadha mara nyingi katika nyanja ya michezo. Kwa mfano, wakimbiaji kutoka Kaunti ya Nandi, ambako Sen. Cherarkey anatoka, na pia ni mashemeji wangu, wachezaji mpira kutoka kaunti mbalimbali, na wanaocheza michezo inayojulikana kwa kizungu kama indoor games. Bi. Spika wa Muda, ningependa kusema wazi kwamba kumekuwa na changamoto kubwa sana kwa wachezaji wetu kufanya michezo kwa sababu ya ufadhili. Timu nyingi za soka ambazo zinacheza nyanjani sehemu za mashinani sana, Wazungu huita rural areas, zina changamoto ya fedha sio haba. Timu inayofaa kusafiri The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "kwenda kuchezea mechi ya kirafiki pengine kaunti ya mbali, kwa mfano, kutoka Kilifi kwenda Nyanza lakini hawana ufadhili."
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"content": "Mapendekezo ya Sen. Sifuna ya kwamba wachezaji wote waweze kijisajili katika makundi tofauti tofauti ili waweze kupata fedha kutoka kwa Serikali ni jambo la maana sana."
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