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"content": "tarmacked roads and hospitals in Starehe Constituency. They already have a national hospital and many other private hospitals. But when you look at the allocations of North Horr and Starehe they are almost equal. They even get more. Political leaders like ourselves, we must come up and make sure that this country is given proper development. Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, it is obvious that this Ministry is not serious. I wonder how we can achieve Vision 2030, if the Ministry is not planning properly. Because I was affected by the unfairness, I think that Ministry is planning to fail. I think that Ministry is planning not to achieve Vision 2030 if we go the way they are going. I think the Mover had a vision. This Mover should actually be given the opportunity to serve in the Ministry of Planning, National Development and Vision 2030. This is the only man who can move this country far. With those few remarks, I beg to support."
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"content": " Thank you, Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir. I think this is a very timely and important Motion because we are in the transition to the new Constitution. It would be very unfair if we were to use old statistics to allocate money to the counties. These are old statistics that have even been discredited. They have also been challenged. Experts have looked into them and said they were not properly collected. Therefore, it is incumbent upon the Government at this particular juncture before it is too late, to collect the right statistics, so that we can have proper allocation of resources. If you use old statistics that are not credible then, obviously, what you will have is a misallocation of resources. We will be doing an injustice to the people of this Republic if we were to use statistics that are not credible. I am, therefore, very strongly supporting this Motion. Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, it is not just statistics for poverty survey. This covers even issues of boundaries. Remember the census that was done that, again, was controversial. Even the Ministry itself admitted that certain figures that were picked in certain areas were not correct; they were exaggerated. Money was allocated for a proper census to be done so that the correct population figures could be taken from those constituencies. We are still surprised that the Government is still dilly dallying, not picking the proper statistics for those areas to be able to correct the errors that were done. It will, again, be an injustice if those figures that were exaggerated were used to delineate boundaries for new constituencies. What that will mean is that certain areas will have excess constituencies in relation to other areas. Therefore, some areas will have more resources than others. Again, it will be an injustice to this Republic where we are saying we use the proper statistics, so that people could get the correct allocation that they deserve. Therefore, I think we are using this Motion to urge the Ministry of Planning, National Development and Vision 2030 to expeditiously allocate money and do the poverty surveys. At the same time, we are also using the money that it was given to correct the census results in those areas that the census was not properly done, so that the correction can be done. Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, you may find certain Kenyans going to court, again, if the electoral commission were to go ahead and delineate constituencies on the basis of wrong population figures. People will go to court. That will be very bad because it will mean, again, delaying the process of creating new constituencies. It will be their right to go to court if the Ministry itself said these figures that were picked were"
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"content": "43 Wednesday, 14th December, 2011(A)"
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"content": "wrong. The Ministry of Planning, National Development and Vision 2030 admitted that these figures were exaggerated. Then on what basis would you use such wrong figures to create new constituencies? The Constitution is very clear; it is saying, create the constituencies on basis of population quota and on basis of correct statistics, then you go ahead and use those figures to create new boundaries and new constituencies. It will be an injustice that must be corrected. I am raising this because it is part of what needs to be done in preparation for the new dispensation that everybody is waiting for. With those few remarks, I support."
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"content": "Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, when I saw this Motion on the Order Paper, my initial thinking was to oppose it because I know there has never been any credible survey in this country and I did not want to give this Government any extra money to do a shoddy job similar to what they have been doing. However, I have since changed my mind and I am supporting the Motion. I want to be very clear as to why I support this Motion. This survey which was done in 2005/06 defied all the conventional rules of scientific sampling. I want to just give you a few examples. Between 1999 and 2005, the poverty levels rose from 64 per cent to 97 per cent in Turkana Central. It looks suspect. In the same period even with the presidency, Othaya increased in poverty from 27 per cent to 29 per cent. The same period it is indicated that Rarieda Constituency had its poverty level decrease from 74 per cent to 26 per cent. Honestly, which factories were constructed in Rarieda to alleviate poverty with such a margin?"
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"content": "Gwassi Constituency all over a sudden became rich from a poverty level of 66 per cent to 50 per cent. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, someone sat somewhere in an office and came up with these statistics. This is unacceptable. Even as we want to support this Motion, mine would be that we require a guarantee that, this time round, the Ministry is going to do a credible survey and come up with results that can be relied on; and not outrageous results like the one we see in this booklet. It is important that the Ministry does a radical surgery in the Kenya National Bureau of Statistics (KNBS). Otherwise, whatever amount we are going to give as a country to those people to carry out survey is going to be a waste of resources and that is not acceptable. If we are going to proceed to allocate resources to counties and even constituencies, we need reliable and credible statistics. If we are going to do that, first we need a guarantee that, this time round, it is going to be done differently. Otherwise, if we are just going to pass a Motion here to approve that we carry out a fresh survey yet, once that is done, we are still going to have the same personnel carrying out the survey; of what use is that survey going to be? We would rather stay with the figures as they are - even if they are wrong and we know it - rather than spend Government resources again to carry out a survey which will not be credible."
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"content": "44 Wednesday, 14th December, 2011(A)"
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"content": "Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, maybe, I would urge that we come up with a law, because this is a Motion. I would like to thank my brother Dr. Otichilo for coming up with this Motion. But, probably, we need a law in Parliament that is going to guide any fresh survey that is going to be conducted by Government machinery. I am telling you that I am one of the people who will not have faith in any results that are going to come out of a survey, if it is done by the same body - Kenya National Bureau of Standards (KNBS) as it is constituted today. It will be a waste of Government resources, as I have just mentioned. It beats logic how poverty prevalence can decline within a period of five years in Rarieda from 73 per cent to 26 per cent. That is just not practical unless you tell us there was an intervention, maybe, from the international community of building factories and such things. I have never seen that in Rarieda. I pass through Rarieda many times and I have never seen any significant change from 2000 to 2005 which would warrant that growth. In Gwassi, poverty levels have been increasing. That is because even the agriculturally productive land that we used to have is no longer producing the kind of produce that we have been having. So, how do you convince me that my constituency has become richer, with poverty levels reducing from 66 per cent to 50 per cent? Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, let me conclude by saying that, unless we are going to have a new body in place to carry out the survey, it is going to be a waste of public resources. Thank you."
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