10 May 2022 in National Assembly:
blocks have no provision for people who are enabled differently. This Bill is timely even though I do not know whether, as a House, we will be able to sit through to process it. How I wish we are able to process it to finality. Even if we do not manage to conclude this Bill in the remaining time of the current Parliament, I urge my colleague, Hon. Dennitah Ghati, whom I am very sure will be part of the 13th Parliament, to make sure that it becomes her Bill number one if some of us will not be here. ...
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10 May 2022 in National Assembly:
I take this opportunity to say “pole” to our colleague, Hon. Sankok. We know what he is going through. My prayer is that he is able to pull through the challenge and come back to this House so that by the time we get to the Third Reading, he is here to make his contribution. This is because he has championed the interests of people who are abled differently in this House in an excellent manner. It will be good that he has his input in this Bill. As I conclude, I wish Hon. Members well. My appeal to those ...
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13 Apr 2022 in National Assembly:
Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker. I rise to support this important Bill as a member of the Committee that discussed it. What is being proposed is to come up with a population database which will capture information relating to our populace. A number of clauses provide for different things. The Bill proposes issuance of a Huduma card - a card that will contain important information relating to an individual in this country. The card is supposed to capture information contained on our National Identity cards, National Hospital Insurance Fund (NHIF) cards and National Social Security Fund (NSSF) ...
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13 Apr 2022 in National Assembly:
Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, in countries where these kinds of cards have been managed properly, they add value in service provision. Our Huduma card, which has been proposed, is very good. As a Committee, we need to create awareness. We need to give more information to Kenyans on what this card is supposed to do. I see a lot of doubts. Any time we The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor.
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13 Apr 2022 in National Assembly:
interact with stakeholders, a number of doubts are raised. There are those who feel that the introduction of this card brings some discrimination. For example, we have refugees in this country. Even as you propose to issue a refugee card, how will non-Kenyans access it?
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13 Apr 2022 in National Assembly:
There are some State Departments like Immigration which strongly believe that the way the Bill is structured currently, is likely to do away with it. These are some of the challenges that we went through. Even as we move forward with this Bill, we will address some of the issues which are contentious during the Committee of the whole House. If we get this card, it will be very good for this country.
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13 Apr 2022 in National Assembly:
There is the question of whether this card will only contain data on an individual or it will be used for other purposes. Once we access it, we will have a central deposit of the data. To what extent will other departments access it? As an individual, all my information will be there. If only NHIF requires my information, will they access all the information in the card just as much as Kenya Revenue Authority (KRA)? I imagine that NHIF requires some specific information on me as opposed to what KRA expects from me. This division is very important. Information ...
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13 Apr 2022 in National Assembly:
The other issue being raised is that of our children. There is a proposal that when a child gets to age six, he or she should get a Huduma card. We will consider that proposal together with our Constitution, which is very clear. Unless you hit the age of 18, you might not make decisions because you are categorised as a child. Is there a situation where my child needs a Huduma card? Is it possible that the child will walk to an office and be assisted using that card and the guardian is not part of that whole process? ...
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13 Apr 2022 in National Assembly:
There was also another proposal on this card. When you get it immediately you hit 18 years, you are registered with KRA as a taxpayer. These are important issues. If I have hit 18 years, does it mean that I should automatically start declaring my taxes even when I am not working? That is the implication. These are some of the important issues in this Bill, which should be considered. When all is said and done, it is a very important Bill which will streamline the way we manage our population data. You have heard of Anglo-leasing in Kenya. It ...
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13 Apr 2022 in National Assembly:
As we debate this important Bill, there must also be a very clear strategy on how to create awareness amongst Kenyans, so that they can do away with the fears that they have as a result of this Bill. The State Departments which fear that they might be done away with as a result of this Bill should be assured that when it becomes an Act of Parliament, they will still operate. However, there can be kind of administrative changes in structure. The Bill proposes a Director-General to manage this data. The State Departments of Immigration Services, National Registration Bureau ...
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