8 Jun 2023 in Senate:
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8 Jun 2023 in Senate:
Mr. Speaker, Sir, you have defended me, so that is fine. Let me just continue. The two things which Sen. Cheruiyot has mentioned that I want to put emphasis on, is the role of the Senate on matters devolution. I think if we do not get that right, then anything else that we do will be in vain. Without mentioning names because there is no need to, I was a bit taken aback when we were debating the Equalisation Fund Bill. Some Senators said that they were not going to vote for it because their counties were not included. If ...
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8 Jun 2023 in Senate:
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8 Jun 2023 in Senate:
of Kitui, hon. Nganga from Miambani Ward, and he was telling me that they are not actually asking for more money. They already have that money in our budget. The only thing that they are asking is to find a way of reallocation of those money and revenue, so that all the money that they have is not lumped in travel. He was very honest with me and told me that that is the reason why every now and then, your MCAs are either in Mombasa, Naivasha, Dubai or Turkey. They are trying to make up for the deficit that ...
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8 Jun 2023 in Senate:
Those banks are making money and profits using the county money that passes through those accounts. The last time I checked, this country was doing badly financially. However, we are not necessarily insolvent. The Committee on Finance and Budget can help county governments by making it a pre-condition for commercial banks where the revenues for counties pass through, to process payments for county staff on the 26th of every month, whether there is money in the salaries account of the county assemblies and county governments or not.
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8 Jun 2023 in Senate:
At the end of the day, that money will be wired through those banks. There is no reason why the employees of the county government of Kitui should go without pay for two or three months yet the commercial banks that process these monies will eventually receive the money and process the payments. We can have a standing order. This can be a pre-condition for county governments to open accounts with commercial banks in their respective headquarters.
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8 Jun 2023 in Senate:
Mr. Speaker, Sir, I am going to complete my submission with the issue of disbursements. A conversation between a Committee of the Whole led by the Committee on Finance and Budget and the National Treasury would greatly help. This time round, let it not be a summons issued to the National Treasury. Let it be a conversation between us and the National Treasury. Let us ask them why they are unable to disburse funds to counties when the disbursements are due. What is it that we can do as leaders in this country and technocrats in the National Treasury to ...
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8 Jun 2023 in Senate:
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8 Jun 2023 in Senate:
If we continue in this way, that after we have passed the County Allocation of Revenue Act (CARA), we sit back and as governors complain that they are not getting money, we in the Senate are also complaining. Somebody must provide a solution for this disbursement issue. That solution can only be found between ourselves and the National Treasury.
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8 Jun 2023 in Senate:
Mr. Speaker, Sir, with those many remarks, let me give other colleagues an opportunity to contribute to this Bill. I support.
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