26 Feb 2020 in Senate:
If this House is serious about protecting devolution, we have to deal with corrupt governors. We should not confuse protection of devolution with protection of governors. The truth of the matter is that we have to fight corruption. This House must pronounce itself on whether or not it supports corruption. We should avoid the argument that an individual is being targeted due to their political inclination. This House should act on corrupt governors regardless of their political inclination. The corrupt individuals who we presume are protected can also be stopped if we are serious about the fight against corruption.
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26 Feb 2020 in Senate:
Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, Nairobi City County is paramount. Although we are from other counties, we spend most of our time in Nairobi City County because we work and live here. Therefore, whatever happens here affects all of us. We cannot allow services in Nairobi City County to come to a halt---
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25 Feb 2020 in Senate:
Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker, for allowing me to second this Motion. I also wish to thank sen. Mwaura for having such a clear Report that you do not need to have attended that symposium for you to understand the deliberations of this Conference.
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25 Feb 2020 in Senate:
One of the other issues that I want to bring out is that 500 leaders from 50 countries have attended this Conference. For such a Conference with very clear outcome and strategies in terms of how to move forward from one step to the next in terms of fight against corruption, I think needs to lead to action. This is in terms of the linkages between members who are able to attend this Conference and the agencies that deal with corruption. Once they have those linkages, these people tend to get new ideas in terms of how to fight corruption.
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25 Feb 2020 in Senate:
Madam Temporary Speaker, when I was a board member of one of these institutions, I once attended a conference in Mombasa County. One of the people from the Ethics and Anti-Corruption Commission (EACC) said: “You know, it is very hard to fight corruption because it keeps on mutating.”
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25 Feb 2020 in Senate:
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25 Feb 2020 in Senate:
My feedback to that person was that if this corruption is mutating, and you have no mutating ideas to tackle, then what is the point of having you there anyway? The vice is mutating and you are not. You do not have new ideas to make a difference.
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25 Feb 2020 in Senate:
In terms of the fight against corruption, there are individual country strategies. In my language we say that there is nowhere on somebody’s body that is above the head for you to cuddle. I am just doing a direct translation. Given that, the Head of State in this country has not once or twice spoken to this issue. Sometime back he sacked even Cabinet Secretaries (CSs). That shows that he is committed to the fight against corruption.
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25 Feb 2020 in Senate:
Madam Temporary Speaker, where and why are we failing? People who are corrupt do not exchange corruption proceeds under the watch of cameras. It is done so secretively that you need a very clear procedure to capture it. Because of that, the President wanted people to undergo a lifestyle audit.
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25 Feb 2020 in Senate:
Madam Temporary Speaker, you will remember that there was a lot of discussion round how there is no legal framework to do a lifestyle audit. There is a Bill in this House that is already published that is tackling that. The lifestyle audit is the game changer, together with an agreement from the prosecutor and the person with the assets discovery that is detailed in that Bill. However, we need political goodwill in this process.
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