Francis Baya

All parliamentary appearances

Entries 121 to 130 of 186.

• 29 Sep 2010 in National Assembly: Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I know the interests of the Chair well. This procedure is similar in all border districts. If you go to Isebania, our border with Tanzania, you will find that it applies. Even in our border with Tanzania along the shore line, in Msambweni, it applies. The objective is not to marginalise or isolate a particular community but to, as much as possible, ensure that only Kenyans acquire this very important identification document. view
• 29 Sep 2010 in National Assembly: Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, what the hon. Member has raised does not seem to be a question but rather a comment. However, let me say that refugee camps are not registration centres. When refugees come into the country, be it from Sudan or Somalia--- view
• 29 Sep 2010 in National Assembly: Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I am not aware of that aspect. Refugees live several kilometres away from Nairobi. So, if there is corruption, it must be within the camps, and not at the headquarters. I am not aware of it. view
• 29 Sep 2010 in National Assembly: Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the vetting exercise is a combination of various techniques. That is why we have officers from the National Security Intelligence Service (NSIS) plus the production of identification from parents which assists us to know who is a Kenyan and who is not. So, there is no one particular method that is applied. That is why we have all officers even from the Ministry of education from time to time. view
• 29 Sep 2010 in National Assembly: Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I would also want to further say that there is a difference between visiting a refugee camp and visiting a registration centre. If we go to a refugee camp today and find about 2,000 refugees having run away from other countries to our camp, you will be surprised. I would like to inform Mr. Kapondi that I was there two weeks ago and I know what I am talking about. The vetting exercise should be divorced from the handling of refugees in this country if we are to move ahead. view
• 29 Sep 2010 in National Assembly: Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, there are many programmes that are ongoing within the Ministry to make sure that we curb the coming in of people who are not properly registered as refugees. However, we must also appreciate that our borders are porous. The borders are big and fairly porous. Those who come through designated areas are registered as refugees but there are those who go through panya routes . That is an exercise that we have to undertake together. Of course the Ministry will take the lead but we need the support of all Kenyans to make sure that those ... view
• 29 Sep 2010 in National Assembly: Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I think we are going round in circles. I answered that question. The same hon. Member told us here that there are some Kenyans who went into the refugee camps because of the little gains there. So, after these Kenyans are registered and they go back to the villages, their fingerprints are still maintained by the data base in the refugee camp. That is the reason why they may be vetted and approved at the locational level but rejected here. view
• 29 Sep 2010 in National Assembly: Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I am not aware of the programme that is being run by a certain radio station. This is a democratic country and anybody can air whatever they want. With regard to the porousness of our borders, I said that this is a joint exercise. We are doing our best together with the security personnel who are manning our borders to make sure that we do not have illegal immigrants coming to this country. view
• 29 Sep 2010 in National Assembly: Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, those Kenyans who are sure that they are Kenyans and whose fingerprints were rejected by our data base in Nairobi can be assisted. If the hon. Member knows any of them, they should give us the list and we will correct that anomaly. view
• 29 Sep 2010 in National Assembly: Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, we will keep on streamlining the vetting procedures, including changing the vetting committees because they are supposed to serve for only one year. However, for those who are 25 years and above, they can also be vetted; so long as they are Kenyans, they will still be given identification cards. I want to assure the hon. Member that there is nobody who will be denied an identification card even if they are above the required age. view