19 Feb 2019 in Senate:
Madam Temporary Speaker, the Senator who was on her feet needs to agree to be informed, but I have seen she has responded to the affirmative. I just want to inform the Senator and maybe the rest who are listening, that, yes, in as much as this Bill did not originate from us, what happened is that we had already brought such a Bill that passed at Second Reading. The Government copied and pasted our Bill, save for a few grammatical errors. The fear you have that it may not ideally cover what you would have wanted ideally should not ...
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19 Feb 2019 in Senate:
Bi. Spika wa Muda. Nitajibu kwa Kiswahili. Ningependa kumweleza Sen. Madzayo ya kwamba, sikuwa na shida wala hoja ya nidhamu wakati Sen. Halake alisimama. Ilikuwa ni kumpa maelezo zaidi. Katika Bunge la Seneti tuko na shida kwa sababu Mswada huu ulikuwa ushajadiliwa hapa na tukaupitisha, ilhali ulianzishwa tena katika Bunge la Kitaifa. Lakini ukiangalia yaliyomo ndani ya Mswada huu ni sawa na yale tuliyoyapitisha. Nilikuwa nampa maelezo zaidi. Mswada huu umeletwa na Kiongozi wa Walio wengi na sio Mwenyekiti wa Kamati. Kwa hivyo, sitakuwa na nafasi baadaye ya kujibu.
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19 Feb 2019 in Senate:
Madam Temporary Speaker, my microphone is on. It is interesting that both Members are Members of my Committee. Within the Committee, we have been very clear that our Bill has not been dropped; it is still there and sometimes, it comes up The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate.
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19 Feb 2019 in Senate:
on the Order Paper. However, the Committee deliberated and agreed that since this Bill has come from the National Assembly, we can still proceed with it. We have had public participation and we are retreating as a Committee to do our report on this specific one so that we do not ignore it yet there is still need for a Bill to be passed for the same purposes. We decided to be pragmatic in as much as we are very upset that the National Assembly - which is something I have said on record - chose to bypass this Bill, ...
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19 Feb 2019 in Senate:
Madam Temporary Speaker, these are concerns that we all had with this process. In fact, it is interesting for my good friend, Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr., to say that we would then schedule this Bill as a priority and leave ours, yet I do not sit in the Senate Business Committee (SBC) where he sits. The decision that had been made in the SBC was that if, indeed, the Bill is the same in content and character, and we do not agree, we will go to mediation because we have amendments and we have sat for full day sessions with ...
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19 Feb 2019 in Senate:
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19 Feb 2019 in Senate:
Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. Clearly, this discussion is emitting more heat than light because we are going around the same circle. We are all clear about the interests of the Senate. Apart from putting our foot down, it is really to get this legislative framework done. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate.
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19 Feb 2019 in Senate:
I will give you an example of what will be the faster route. Hon. Members are at liberty to decide and the Senate Business Committee (SBC), where I do not sit, can schedule both Bills.
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19 Feb 2019 in Senate:
I am sympathetic and I like the proposal by Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr., because the Senate will pronounce itself in terms of amendments. We can put all the amendments we want, as a House, in both the Bills. However, let it not be that this House has killed any of the two Bills that is providing rights for our county government workers. We must decide to push both; we can push the one we did to them, and this one they have done with the amendments we want as a Senate. However, ultimately, there must be a legislative framework. Madam ...
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19 Feb 2019 in Senate:
Madam Temporary Speaker, I am neither the Mover of this Bill nor part of those to schedule it. So, the ball lies squarely in the court of the SBC. I would be very happy with my Committee---. In fact, I have looked for quorum for months and have found it in the Plenary. I have four Members here right now.
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