Jonathan Lelelit Lati

All parliamentary appearances

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• 18 Jun 2015 in National Assembly: all the ranks of the CBK, he had all the qualifications of PhD. He even became No.1in the interview. He was voted the best by the best investor magazine in the world but still the only qualification that could not put him to be the Governor of the CBK is being a Samburu. view
• 18 Jun 2015 in National Assembly: I wish that we would have been a little bit sensitive to ourselves that we do not put a Samburu name here. We would have left Mr. Haron Sirima as Dr. Sirima and nothing to do with being a Samburu because we are ashaming ourselves by having Dr. Haron Sirima putting a Samburu in the resource slip and not giving him this job. I will still remain a patriotic Kenyan but today, there is something I have seen that is different. I have seen that there is a natural ceiling for people who come from small tribes in this country. ... view
• 18 Jun 2015 in National Assembly: Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker. view
• 10 Jun 2015 in National Assembly: Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker. I support the general principles of this Bill, but we have to be very careful, as a country. We should appreciate that we are not dealing with ordinary people in this case; we are dealing with people who have committed offences and crimes. We are not transferring somebody from a college in the United States of America to a college in Kenya. We are transferring people who have committed crimes of different intensities. Therefore, we have to be very careful about what we are doing. view
• 10 Jun 2015 in National Assembly: Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, there are obvious merits in this Bill. In my opinion, transfer of prisoners is better served by a treaty framework between countries rather than a legislative framework like the one we have here. On average, criminals are not good people. As much as there are some injustices that might get people to prison, we can say quite honestly that on average, prisoners are not good people. Therefore, The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor. view
• 10 Jun 2015 in National Assembly: whichever framework we are going to use to make life better for them, it has to be in such a way that we do not try to reduce the punishment that is meant for them. Generally, prisons are supposed to be correctional facilities. Depending on the crime you have committed, be it in Kenya or in the USA, the correctional facility serves you better in the country where you have committed the crime. view
• 10 Jun 2015 in National Assembly: When you compare living in a foreign country and knowing that if you commit a crime you can somehow get back to your home country and, on the other hand, knowing that if you commit a crime you cannot get back to your home country, provides an incentive for committing a crime and a dis-incentive against committing a crime, respectively. For example, we get many tourists in this country, particularly in the coastal areas. Imagine that people, for some reason, think that even if they commit heinous crimes, like molesting our children and rape, they can still be taken back ... view
• 10 Jun 2015 in National Assembly: On the other hand, if you know that even after committing a crime in a foreign land you can get back to your home country, if you are a very bad person, just like some people are, you can think of bad things to do. You can molest a child in Mombasa and then be taken back to the United Kingdom (UK) to serve your sentence there. Such an arrangement takes away the fear of the crime that you are about to commit in a foreign country. Some countries, particularly the western countries, tend to demean our legal system. Everything ... view
• 10 Jun 2015 in National Assembly: Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, the other thing I noticed here is that we have not defined the level of crimes. We need to establish why you are in prison. We have not defined serious crimes. We must believe in our legal system and appreciate that there are cases which are not transferable. I also conversely believe that countries where our people commit crimes believe in their legal system, particularly regarding crimes that are very serious. Therefore, we have to be very careful about what we are doing through this Bill. It can put us in a position where we might ... view
• 10 Jun 2015 in National Assembly: Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, obviously, there are merits for preferring transfers. We know that, for prisoners, our jails are too congested. We do not want to congest them any further. We would rather decongest them. So, releasing some prisoners to be transferred to prison facilities in their mother country would be a merit. However, if you think of a prison facility as a truly correctional facility where we try to correct people and impart them with skills, so that they can do better in life, what is wrong with having a Kenyan serving a jail term in the USA acquiring ... view