4 Dec 2013 in National Assembly:
We are left with two Motions to deal with, that is Motion at Order No.10 and Motion at Order No.12. This is very heavy business in the House. We have spent a lot of time on Order No.7. I kindly ask the Member for Kibwezi West to second.
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4 Dec 2013 in National Assembly:
conclusion of business appearing under Order No.12, that is Approval of Parliamentary Service Commission (PSC) Members. We are left with two Motions to deal with, that is Motion at Order No.10 and Motion at Order No.12. This is very heavy business in the House. We have spent a lot of time on Order No.7. I kindly ask the Member for Kibwezi West to second.
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3 Dec 2013 in National Assembly:
Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairman, Sir, I wanted to help you change your mind because I really wanted to emphasize what hon. Patrick ole Ntutu has said. However, let me add that this is a county wildlife forum and the county is the basic unit of communities. If we want to involve communities living in wildlife areas in terms of management and utilization, then we should not raise the bar so much to the extent that, that community will not be able to participate in the management of wildlife. Five years is fairly good. So, I support the further amendment.
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3 Dec 2013 in National Assembly:
Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairman, I stand to oppose the further amendment by my good friend, Dr. Pukose. I want to plead with hon. Members that they have to really know the functions of this county wildlife forum. In most cases, it will be to adjudicate conflicts. That is why in its composition there is an agricultural officer, a livestock officer, a medical officer and so on. It will be more about compensation than crops, livestock and the human-wildlife conflict. Some of these claims may really not qualify for compensation. I want to tell my colleagues that this is not going ...
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3 Dec 2013 in National Assembly:
Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, I want to put this clear because hon. ole Ntutu seems not to be a good lawyer and mathematician. At least, I am a good mathematician. I fully want to support that amendment and agree with the Mover that this is the gist of this Bill for communities living with wildlife. I am very happy that when you look at this Chamber, Members from areas where wildlife is found are all here. We have already lost people as communities living with wildlife and that is the first point. Wildlife is our coffee and tea. When you ...
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3 Dec 2013 in National Assembly:
It is about compensation. That is the biggest issue and I am happy that the Committee did not delete Clause 3 because I want Members to read it. We are talking of compensation of destruction of livestock, crops and death of human beings. I am happy that the clause on livestock and crops still remains but we have to compensate them based on the market value of what has been maimed, destroyed or killed by wildlife. However, the only issue which I want to disagree with the Committee, and which I want to bring to the attention of the Chair ...
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3 Dec 2013 in National Assembly:
Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairman, I want to inform Members something. I have heard from Members with a background of insurance trying to equate wildlife compensation to insurance claims resulting from accidents by motor vehicles. I want to tell them this: There is nobody in this country who is insured against wildlife accidents. There is nobody. The insurance Bill that we passed was on motor vehicles and not wildlife. In the Ninth Parliament, one Minister told us that in his area the biggest wildlife is a squirrel. So, this brings forth the question: Do people understand what wildlife is? Wildlife is ...
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3 Dec 2013 in National Assembly:
comes to wildlife-related claims. This is not a judicial scheme. There will be no cases going to court and there is no insurance against wildlife attacks. Therefore, let us be specific and agree with hon. ole Ntutu.
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3 Dec 2013 in National Assembly:
I stand to oppose the amendment. I do not want to say much. I fully concur with what hon. Dr. Ottichilo has said. If you look at the Eighth Schedule, it describes how cropping and culling will be done. None of this will be done without the authority of the KWS. Part one on the Schedule already addresses what hon. Ms. Kanyua has talked about. It is about the consideration upon which the KWS will license any applicant to undertake cropping and culling. This is well elaborated. For those of us who come from wildlife areas and have seen these ...
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3 Dec 2013 in National Assembly:
Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairman, I wanted to raise the same issue. I do not know whether there is an amendment to this clause. What happens to those people who hunt? There are those people who kill wildlife in self defence or in defending property. When an elephant strays into your farm, will you stand there as it destroys your crops? If you kill that elephant you will be charged Kshs100,000 because you killed it outside the protected area while defending yourself or property.
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