16 Feb 2022 in Senate:
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16 Feb 2022 in Senate:
Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, you can have a diploma and a higher diploma in nursing but that is not characterized in this country as a university degree. Then you punish those people who have the qualifications and should serve in this Chamber.
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16 Feb 2022 in Senate:
Sen. Cherargei captured something important. The lawyers present here are not experts in legislative drafting. We depend on the department that deals with legislative drafting to draft for us and we have the best of them. With my high qualifications on matters of law, I still cannot reach my teacher, Sen. (Prof.) Kindiki. However, Sen. (Prof.) Kindiki and our Senior Counsels generate an idea and give it to our staff if we want to draft a Bill. We are not legislative drafters yet we have higher degrees and long-term experience on matters of law.
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16 Feb 2022 in Senate:
Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, if there is a colleague here who is a nurse with a degree in nursing or medicine and we are discussing legal issues, they will depend on the staff. Let us not say that the fact that someone does not have a degree qualification, they have no capacity to move Motions, laws and legislations. Hon. Shikuku, Hon. Tom Mboya and many others did it here in this Chamber. They did not have degree qualifications but were passionate legislators.
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16 Feb 2022 in Senate:
There were other prominent Kenyans like the former Vice President and later President Daniel Moi. He moved a lot of Motions on behalf of the Government in this Chamber without having a degree qualification. Did President Jomo Kenyatta have a degree? He wrote books, lived in London and was educated. I am not sure whether he came back with a degree.
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16 Feb 2022 in Senate:
Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I do not know the education level of Harry Thuku and Achieng Oneko but they are our heroes. Hon. Jaramogi Oginga Odinga was not a degree holder but he wrote many books and was a very eloquent legislator in this Chamber. We are privileged to be speaking on the same Floor where those heroes spoke.
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16 Feb 2022 in Senate:
Let us not use degrees to block our colleagues. Sen. Halake shared with me a few of her ideas. Where she comes from and this is the story of many pastoralists’ areas, the cost of education is high. Getting a teacher to be posted in Wajir, Isiolo and other marginalized areas is a problem. When insecurity occurred, many teachers who did not come from those regions left those parts. There was a crisis. That means the percentage of those educated becomes more acute when you go to these marginalized areas.
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16 Feb 2022 in Senate:
Therefore, let us not deny them an opportunity to elect leaders they deserve. Let us not reward privilege according to Sen. Halake. She insisted that this is not to say that education is not important for leadership. I agree with her. People should not flip the conversation. We are just saying that we should not erect roadblocks for people who want to come here and then continue their education.
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16 Feb 2022 in Senate:
Like Sen. Cherargei said here, let me go and stand there and tell the people to elect me because I have three degrees. Let another person also tell the people to elect them because they do not have degrees and so they are alike. Let those that do not have degrees vote for each other. If you are not careful, you will be beaten by the hustler in the village because people want a person who understands their issues and can represent them.
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16 Feb 2022 in Senate:
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