5 Mar 2024 in Senate:
Ultimately, the debate must be heard whether we need 47 counties or less. For those of us who look at books of accounts on almost a daily basis, the 47 county governments are beginning to look like 47 payroll offices, because the bulk of what they do is to pay salaries and to chase for the exchequer to be released. We must ask ourselves and have a candid conversation on the kind of economies of scale that we need to ensure that we have fewer counties that can synergize better. Before we get there, perhaps it is within our powers ...
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5 Mar 2024 in Senate:
Thank you. I beg to Move. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard Services, Senate.
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5 Mar 2024 in Senate:
Madam Temporary Speaker, it is unfortunate that Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale has sat down, but when I was moving the Bill, I indicated that this House benefits from the wisdom of two Members who were there in Naivasha when we decided on 47 counties. I thought Sen. Mungatana and Sen. (Dr) Khalwale would address that, so that those of us who were not there, can be guided. Unfortunately, he has already taken his seat.
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15 Feb 2024 in Senate:
Madam Temporary Speaker, just like the famous inciter of bulls, Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, has said, I also rise to oppose these amendments. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard Services,Senate.
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15 Feb 2024 in Senate:
Our job here, as a Senate, is to defend and protect devolution. The net effect of these amendments is to dilute devolution and transfer functions and powers that have been assigned to county governments to the national Government institutions. I have gone through this Amendment Bill and have got a clear conscience in opposing it. I have further received instructions from the caucus of County Executive Committee Members (CECMs) in charge of water in Kenya. They have said that they held their meetings and decided that for this Bill, they are going to lobby their respective Senators, so that we ...
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15 Feb 2024 in Senate:
Madam Temporary Speaker, the caucus members include CECM in charge of water from Bomet and he has asked us to oppose this Bill. The CECM in charge of water from Mombasa, where Sen. Miraj allegedly comes from, has asked us to oppose it. That includes the one for Kisii where Sen. Orwoba allegedly comes from. They have also asked us to oppose it.
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15 Feb 2024 in Senate:
Madam Temporary Speaker, I think I would have benefited from the report of the Standing Committee on this particular amendment.
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15 Feb 2024 in Senate:
Madam Temporary Speaker, I have no idea where she comes from. So, there is nothing for me to apologize over. If someone went to a good school, the word “alleged”---
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15 Feb 2024 in Senate:
The word “alleged” is self-explanatory. Madam Temporary Speaker, allow me to go to the content of this Amendment Bill. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard Services,Senate.
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15 Feb 2024 in Senate:
I have nothing to withdraw because I do not know where you come from.
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