22 Feb 2012 in National Assembly:
Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the import of the hon. Midiwo’s argument is to suggest that the Act governing this process is itself unconstitutional. He asking the Chair to find that the schedule that laid out the role of Parliament and a Committee of Parliament in this process is itself unconstitutional. He says that a Member of Parliament is not expected to be a Member of the Commission itself.
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22 Feb 2012 in National Assembly:
Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, in my humble opinion, this is not correct. I agree with hon. Abdikadir that independence of a Commission is not to say it exists outside the universe. It is independent of control or direction. It is not independent to the extent that it will not listen to the Chair, or me, or the House or all Kenyans. The whole purpose of the process is to have a Commission that listens to every view and makes the most useful proper constitutional set of Counties, constituencies and wards, so that Kenya might move forward correctly.
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22 Feb 2012 in National Assembly:
Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, in my view, in fact, we should not really be having this debate. The Committee should finish its process and bring their recommendations to us. If the House does not agree with those recommendations, it will be at liberty to throw them out. If the House agrees with those recommendations, then those recommendations will be passed on to the IEBC. I agree that boundaries of wards and constituencies are political question. However, what really is the purpose of political leadership, if every single time, we have to reduce it to a zero something that I must ...
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22 Feb 2012 in National Assembly:
Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, I rise to support and I will be very brief.
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22 Feb 2012 in National Assembly:
I agree with the hon. Karua that we should dispense with this one first, so that this Commission becomes part and parcel of the process.
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22 Feb 2012 in National Assembly:
Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, when I look at the function 5(e). It says to investigate on its own initiative or resorting from a complaint, historical land injustices, and to recommend appropriate redress. I wish this was put in a better way than it appears here. It is not clear whether the person or the body that receives these recommendations is bound to make that appropriate redress.
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22 Feb 2012 in National Assembly:
Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, furthermore, the Bill provides for review of all grants and disposition. It is still not clear, what would happen, for example, to Malmanet or Lalabel forests that are occupied not by way of grants or disposition. Some people are occupying those lands because they are public land. How do we deal with those areas? This should be made clear at the Committee Stage. The idea of having a Commission is paramount because decisions will not be made by an individual. However, it does not imply that discretion cannot be abused. We need to relook this ...
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22 Feb 2012 in National Assembly:
Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, the Mover and the Seconder as well the Speaker before me have talked about the public lands that were grabbed by individuals or institutions. Want to take a radical departure, and to ask the question, what is it that fuels land grabbing? We need to ask ourselves what drives individuals to public land. It is because land is a scarce and it is easily tradable. Kenyans attach a lot of value on land. I think we should impose stringent measures to anybody who wants to trade with public land. We should also impose heavy penalties ...
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22 Feb 2012 in National Assembly:
Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, I believe this Commission will deal with land issues in a very sober manner. Registration of land will be dealt with in a appropriate legislation that will follow this Bill.
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22 Feb 2012 in National Assembly:
Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, I agree with who said that we, first of all, put this Commission in place so that it becomes part of the process.
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