24 Oct 2018 in National Assembly:
Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairlady. I had initially not wished to speak, but in view of the contribution and concern by Hon. Makali, I think it behoves me to say something. I hear the concerns of Hon. Makali in terms of the idea that we might be introducing accreditation to the board. That led me, therefore, to look at the functions of the board. Looking at the functions, I realised that that is already a function. Therefore, there is no problem in introducing it here. I believe Hon. Makali’s fears are already taken care of. Thank you.
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24 Oct 2018 in National Assembly:
Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairlady. While I am not opposed to this section, the Committee should clarify to us a little The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposes only. Acertified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor.
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24 Oct 2018 in National Assembly:
more before we endorse it. When in New Clause 25B(1) it states: “...granted by the Board with the approval of the relevant ethics body”, it would be good to indicate specifically which this ethics body is. My information is that we have about 22 research ethics review committees approved in the country. It might introduce some confusion when you just say “relevant ethics body”. It might not be clear whether it is the internal one to the board or an external one. Secondly, the relation of those provisions to the Science and Innovation Act of 2014 which also appears to ...
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24 Oct 2018 in National Assembly:
Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairman. I see that the proposed amendments seek to change the board to a council. They not only do that, but they also seek to change the name to “Kenya Medical Practitioners and Dental Council”. The rationale for changing this is something I would beg to understand. In the definition proposed by the Committee at Page 1329, under the definition of “specialist”, it still talks of a medical practitioner or dentists. So, the definition seems to adopt the original description. So, I am a little bit at a loss.
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24 Oct 2018 in National Assembly:
Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairlady. Under Section 3A(1)(a)(i), it says: “Be a specialist, medical or dental practitioner of good standing with a degree in medicine and…” The clarification I seek is whether a dentist necessarily has a degree in medicine or dentistry? That is the clarification I am seeking. It appears to me that it is inconsistent. Once we say either “a medical or dentist practitioner”, then you cannot end with a degree in medicine. I could be wrong.
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24 Oct 2018 in National Assembly:
Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairlady. I wanted to make two quick points. The first point has been made by the Deputy Whip. The intervention of this particular section is to assist the Committee because of their own admission that they had left out something. This then invites me to a more fundamental question. With all these interventions and corrections, are these amendments really ready for consideration? Secondly, is it in order for the Leader of the Majority Party to impute improper motives on some Members contrary to Standing Order No.87? The Leader of the Majority Party ought to withdraw ...
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24 Oct 2018 in National Assembly:
Yes, that has passed and I supported it. Before you put the Question to Section 3A in its entirety, my attention has been drawn to paragraph (e) relating to the CEO who shall be the registrar and an ex-officio member and also the secretary to the council. I believe you cannot be ex-officio and also secretary. If you are secretary, you are a substantive member. If you are ex-officio, then you cannot be secretary. That appears expressly contradictory.
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24 Oct 2018 in National Assembly:
Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairlady. These proposed amendments disturbed me a little. First, 4(1)(a)(ii) states that one should “have at least 10 years’ experience in leadership and management”. It does not say “leadership or management”. I have no idea what that means.
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24 Oct 2018 in National Assembly:
It states: “leadership and management”. I beg to be educated on what sort of situation one would be talking about. Secondly, when it comes to appointment to these bodies, one of the most problematic issues is to prescribe a body to a point and you are not clear on which body it is. When it comes to 4(1)(b), it is very clear that appointment is by the Director of Nursing Services, 4(1)(c) is by the National Nurses Association of Kenya, but from 4(1)(d) moving down, it becomes problematic. 4 (1)(d)states: “one person nominated by other professional associations of Kenya representing ...
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24 Oct 2018 in National Assembly:
The Temporary Deputy Chairlady, I hope the Chair of the Committee is listening. Having listened to the explanation, the intervention by Hon. (Dr.) Eseli Simiyu is even more valid. The proposed amendment here is to delete the proposed section 11(5). In which case then it means that we are not seeking to delete the proposed Section 11(5), we are seeking to adjust a different section. So, the proposal as it is here is wrong then. What it is deleting is a different part from what it seeks to address.
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