6 Jul 2006 in National Assembly:
Mr. Temporary Deputy Chairman, Sir, you are putting the Question as amended in the Order Paper, but I have proposed that we delete 1914 PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES July 6, 2006 this clause---
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6 Jul 2006 in National Assembly:
Mr. Temporary Deputy Chairman, Sir, we appreciate the intention of the Committee in trying to make the organisation transparent and accountable. However, if you put the words "in consultation with the Board" then we will get a stalemate because the Minister will only intervene when, in his view, something goes wrong, for example, if they want to buy something that is over-priced. So, if you say, "in consultation" he will only intervene when something is really "dead",. It is like saying: "I want to sack you, can you, please, accept that I sack you?" We are opposing this amendment because ...
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6 Jul 2006 in National Assembly:
Mr. Temporary Deputy Chairman, Sir, I beg to move:- THAT, Clause 18 be amended by deleting subclause (1) and substituting therefor the following new subclause (1) - "(1) The funds of the Authority shall be derived from- (a) such sums as may from time to time be appropriated by Parliament for the purposes; and (b) such fees, fines, levies or other charges as the Minister may approve from time to time." Mr. Temporary Deputy Chairman, Sir, we propose a small amendment to clarify where the July 6, 2006 PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES 1915 organisation will be getting its revenue from. In addition ...
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6 Jul 2006 in National Assembly:
Mr. Temporary Deputy Chairman, Sir, I have moved that amendment.
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6 Jul 2006 in National Assembly:
Mr. Temporary Deputy Chairman, Sir, I would like to thank the hon. Member for that concern. This is the normal thing in all maritime organisations. They get their revenue from imposition of fines and levies because they will give certain standards. If foreign ships come to our ports and they do not meet those specifications, they will be fined as a way of making sure that they do not come to our ports, probably, when they are unseaworthy. Again, there is a proviso that it must be approved by the Minister. The amount of the fine and the penalty itself ...
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6 Jul 2006 in National Assembly:
Mr. Temporary Deputy Chairman, Sir, again, I must appreciate the concern of the Departmental Committee in scrutinising this Bill. However, I think the attention was not brought to the effect of putting the word "decrease". What this means is that if you say that the Board cannot increase or decrease, then we are saying that if, for example, they say they are going---
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6 Jul 2006 in National Assembly:
Yes, Mr. Temporary Deputy Chairman, Sir.
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6 Jul 2006 in National Assembly:
Mr. Temporary Deputy Chairman, Sir, we are opposing this amendment because the effect was not brought to the Committee. What it means is that if the Board wants to save some money, they cannot if we also insert the word "decrease". What should be prohibited are the increases and not the decreases.
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6 Jul 2006 in National Assembly:
Mr. Temporary Deputy Chairman, Sir, I think the hon. Member did not get the exact implications. We are saying that if we want to use the word "decrease" it means that they are prohibited from decreasing from their estimates. This means that they cannot save any money. If they have said that they are going to buy a particular item at a ceratin price, they must buy it at that price even if they find it cheaper elsewhere. That is the purpose of the decrease.
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6 Jul 2006 in National Assembly:
Mr. Temporary Deputy Chairman, Sir, the effect of putting the word "or decrease" means that the Authority cannot reduce their expenses. Under this we are saying that they cannot increase the estimates. However, if we say that they cannot also decrease, we are saying that if they find themselves in a position where they can be able to reduce some of their expenses, then if we say "or decrease" it means they cannot. What should be prohibited are the increases and not the decreases. Decreases are savings and they should be allowed to do so.
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