21 Nov 2019 in Senate:
Mr. Speaker, Sir, Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr. needs to listen to the entire logic of my argument. I argued that whatever you can do to a select committee, it is harder to do it to a plenary. That is my whole point of argument. If we were use the example of the phone calls---
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21 Nov 2019 in Senate:
Mr. Speaker, Sir, I can neither confirm nor deny that the phone calls had a bearing on the final product.
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21 Nov 2019 in Senate:
Mr. Speaker, Sir, if there is a person who improper motive on their conduct has been imputed, it is me. In the course of making my remarks, I mentioned that phone calls were made. There is no reference that those phone calls were to an individual Senator. Secondly, I never stated that it is on the basis of the phone calls that people made the decision. That is why I urged Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr. to listen to the entire context of my argument. I said that whatever can be done to a select committee would be harder to do ...
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21 Nov 2019 in Senate:
Mr. Speaker, Sir, Sen. Poghisio was on phone when I began making my argument. That is why he does not seem to understand the whole context of my argument. However, since I do not want to waste the time of the House---
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21 Nov 2019 in Senate:
Mr. Speaker, Sir, if Sen. Poghisio was to allow me, I would conclude my matter. The point I was trying to raise is that if Sen. Poghisio had concentrated enough to listen to my argument from the beginning, he would have realized my point. If in trying to push my point on the difference between a select committee and a Committee of the Whole, if there is any inkling towards making it appear as if a select committee is more susceptible to being unduly influenced, I withdraw that perception. However, it is unclear to me how I can withdraw a ...
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21 Nov 2019 in Senate:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. Since we began this debate, Sen. Sakaja, who is the originator of this Statement, has brought a twist to this issue. Perhaps the best way to handle it is to pick on five areas that are more critical to Nairobi City County, and have a committee look into them. Having made such submissions, I abandon my earlier thought on why it is important---
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21 Nov 2019 in Senate:
I am abandoning my persuasion on whether to proceed. Earlier on I thought that a Committee of the Whole will be better. However, I pray that we stay long enough until Members get to see the difference between what I was trying to argue, then we will have the discussion later. In no way do I imply that anyone is of a lesser character or conduct in this House.
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21 Nov 2019 in Senate:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I was wondering whether Sen. Malalah meant that Sen. Sakaja should put on a brave face or be brave. I think that he meant the latter rather than the former. Mr. Speaker, Sir, this is a very important issue. I want to point at where the problem is. If you were to ask me about where the challenge, in terms of pending bills in The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate.
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21 Nov 2019 in Senate:
counties, comes from, it is from Article 228 of our Constitution. The Office of the Controller of Budget has failed this country. Mr. Speaker, Sir, you have been a governor and you understand how public finance in counties is managed. We cannot expense public funds unless you have a budget for that particular budget line item. How it is that county governments are able to requisition money, say to pay for a particular road, but thereafter, because of the meanderings therein, they end up paying a particular supplier, as it has been pointed out by Sen. Malalah, because that supplier ...
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