11 Feb 2016 in National Assembly:
Hon. Speaker, I second. Thank you.
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11 Feb 2016 in National Assembly:
Hon. Speaker, I do not know whether to second or not. This contradiction tells you - I hope Hon. Chepkong’a learns from what we were talking about earlier on - that all these things that we do in Parliament, especially when we talk about corruption, we talk about individuals and not corporates or generalities. That is why I second this amendment. We need to The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor.
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11 Feb 2016 in National Assembly:
look at who we are talking about here. We are talking about persons that we know but above all the recommendation does not say these people are culpable. It says that they should be investigated to see if they had any role to play. I hope the bodies concerned will take the action being proposed by the Committee. The Ethics and Anti-Corruption Commission (EACC) should investigate if, in their role, the persons have had any dealings that would lead to loss of money. Hon. Speaker, I second.
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12 Nov 2015 in National Assembly:
Thank you very much, Hon. Speaker. I want to thank Hon. A. B. Duale and Hon. Gumbo, for their comments on this item because it raises very weighty issues. Last year, you remember one matter that we grappled with at the Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs was whether the JSC should appear before us. It took almost a year before they came to realise that they needed to appear before a Parliamentary Committee. So, this is a matter that requires your considered guidance. As a member of the Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs, I also received ...
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12 Nov 2015 in National Assembly:
He is saying that in between the discussions, an issue arose as to whether as the Head of the Judiciary, he should appear before Parliament. That was really curious to me. How do we treat this and who told him? Who raised the issue with him that he will not need to appear or he should appear? You can see the CJ is struggling to understand whether he will appear as the CJ, the President of the Supreme Court or as the Chairman of the JSC? Once this is clear, in future, we will not have this confusion arising.
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12 Nov 2015 in National Assembly:
Most importantly is the way this Parliament does its reports. You have said something about it before, but you need to clarify it. The way committees do their reports is very important. If you listened to Hon. Abdikadir, he has said that the issue of the Committee saying that there are no reports from the Judiciary is a minor issue. The fact that the Judiciary has not given us reports for two years is not a minor issue. It is a big issue. It is an issue of the Constitution which requires that they give us reports. So, if this ...
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12 Nov 2015 in National Assembly:
received those reports, it is not a minor issue. It is a big issue. Therefore, how do we do our reports and how do we check the facts on what we have in our reports? This is very important.
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12 Nov 2015 in National Assembly:
The reason why you see people scampering and fearing to come to Parliament is because they do not know what will be recommended. Therefore, if we are going to allow our reports to be done in such a way that they are very sloppy and are not factual, then we undermine the persons we also seek to oversee. Hon. Speaker, I thought your guidance would be necessary. One, in terms of what Hon. A. B. Duale has said when the CJ is summoned by a committee of Parliament, who does he appear as? What is the framework of his appearance? ...
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12 Nov 2015 in National Assembly:
We also need a timeline on areas where the Constitution requires us to debate reports or other bodies give reports to this National Assembly. How soon must we debate this report so that we do not have this kind of situation arising and giving conflicting information?
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12 Nov 2015 in National Assembly:
Finally, there is lack of clarity on this report. I have also seen this in the last few days in the on-going debate on corruption. There is dichotomy between the roles of the head of a Government institution like the CJ, Cabinet Secretaries and Accounting Officers. This is something that is really important and we need to sort it out as Parliament. How do we treat this because you will find areas in this report that should be addressed to the accounting officers are being addressed to the head of the Judiciary? Questions that should be addressed to the Head ...
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