19 Jun 2019 in Senate:
Mr. Speaker, Sir, first of all, that is not a point of order in any way. It is the Senate Majority Leader who is grossly out of order. Secondly, it is interesting that he is asking Sen. Orengo to listen yet he did not listen to what I said. In the first scenario, I said that we had already engaged with the person who had asked for the Statement and we planned to visit the area, when the Senator came back to us and said it had been agreed upon that we hold back our visit.
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19 Jun 2019 in Senate:
For good measure, even just for neatness, once an engagement like that occurs, in as much as the Senate Committee will continue to do its work, it is important for the Senator to also update the Committee. He should even update the Chairperson on the progress so far. These are issues raised by people from your counties. If there is an update, I think information is important. However, that does not stop us as, as a Committee, from continuing to pursue the matter. Regarding the matter on withdrawal of police reservists, we are still pursuing a date when the CS ...
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19 Jun 2019 in Senate:
Mr. Speaker, Sir, on the second issue on Wajir, I have heard the riders. The information we should bring to this House sought by Sen. Farhiya is quite important. I have heard the questions asked by Sen. Wetangula and the other Senators, for us to state how many uniformed Kenyan officers lost their lives in the hands of Al Shabaab . We cannot bring that answer to this House because we are at war. If we bring some of these matters here, the result will be just to exalt terrorism. Even in other jurisdictions such matters are brought in confidence ...
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19 Jun 2019 in Senate:
Mr. Speaker, Sir, as Chair of the Committee, I have to give an undertaking of what I will do. The question has been sought. Our Committee has dealt with these matters before and we know the limits to which we can go. It will also be very insincere of me to tell this House and Kenyans that I am going to bring a list of Kenyans killed by Al Shabaab ; that we will not do. If Members of my Committee are uncomfortable, then we will bring it. We must remain patriotic to this country. The questions asked in the ...
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19 Jun 2019 in Senate:
Mr. Speaker, Sir, yes, a war was declared. If Members are not aware, we are at war with Al Shabaab . I think Members need to wake up and smell the coffee. It is not a picnic in Wajir and Somalia. We are at war with terror as a country. That was declared officially in the Tenth Parliament. I am sure you were in Parliament at that time. The last one was sought from the Committee on Labour and Social Welfare. It is a very important matter about our young people who are in the digital hailing taxi industry working ...
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19 Jun 2019 in Senate:
Mr. Speaker, Sir, I repeat - the Senate Majority Leader needs to listen - that matter is still on. We have communicated to the Ministry. There is an issue with scheduling and the Cabinet Secretary (CS) is still coming. We are getting a definitive date. When we invite a CS to the House as a Committee, I wish we could drag them from their offices to come here but you understand that there are channels through which we invite these CSs. The invite went immediately I gave that undertaking and then they were not available because of a Cabinet sitting. ...
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19 Jun 2019 in Senate:
Mr. Speaker, Sir, we can make progress on these issues. The HANSARD will bear me out. Sen. Wetangula, I think you walked out when I responded to that particular matter. The first issue raised by Sen. Orengo; yes, the country is at war which is based on the constitutional provisions that he has quoted. In 2011 – if I am not wrong – he was in the Cabinet and Parliament approved Kenya’s war against Al Shabaab and that has not been withdrawn. We are not shy of bringing responses to this House. If anything, from this side of the House, ...
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19 Jun 2019 in Senate:
On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir.
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19 Jun 2019 in Senate:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I apologise for coming up with a point of order at this point. There is an assertion that was made by Sen. Mwaruma that should not go unchallenged. Sen. Mwaruma complained that certain committees summon Cabinet Secretaries (CSs) and others do not. He said he brought a petition about cattle herders in his county. He has failed to acknowledge the fact that I personally, together with some Members of my Committee, went all the way to Taita-Taveta County. We visited Wundanyi and Sagala to listen to the issues after which the Senator said he was ...
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19 Jun 2019 in Senate:
One of our roles is to carry out oversight. Carrying out oversight does not necessarily mean summoning Cabinet Secretaries because some issues can be sorted out by other people in the Executive. That must be made clear.
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