15 Jul 2021 in Senate:
Madam Chairperson, I like the fact there is a clear role given for management of vocational education and training centres, the structures and standard required, the people who are going to be employed and the permits one must receive. This is so that we put the training on the same level in every county.
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15 Jul 2021 in Senate:
We need to ask ourselves the level to which this training will be up to. It is not in my interest o that of vocational trainers that a lot of focus should go to what certification is being given; whether it is a certificate, diploma or degree. Since we are distinguishing vocational training from the formal training we have been having through high school, university and other colleges this one should focus on the skills.
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15 Jul 2021 in Senate:
We are telling somebody, for example, that they have opened a salon and understand a little bit of what is required and inviting them to get more skills. If that person has a certificate or not the person should be able to be the best salonist in whatever area they are. Our grandmothers did not have any certification, but they knew who the best masseur was in the locality. If one was hurting, mama so and so would deal with the situation because they understood that it was important to focus on the skills more than the certificate.
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15 Jul 2021 in Senate:
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15 Jul 2021 in Senate:
To what level are we going to focus on this? If we conclude that it is only to certificate level, then it also become easy for us to distinguish the colleges that are going to be run by county governments alone and the ones that are going to be run by the national Government.
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15 Jul 2021 in Senate:
Why would we build a big structure and then say it is going to give certificate only?
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15 Jul 2021 in Senate:
I appreciate the information from the former Minister for Vocational Training and Science and Technology. I have no doubt he is competent enough to inform me.
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15 Jul 2021 in Senate:
My only concern is not the entry, but the exit. At what level is one going to exit in the institution that will be managed by the county government? If we curb and say that one can only get a certificate from there, then we will also waste resources. We may have built a big structure that can still offer certificates, but there is room for it to offer a diploma or degree for the same people.
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15 Jul 2021 in Senate:
Sen. (Dr.) Milgo and the Committee need to look at that co-management with the participation of the national Government. They can look at how the national Government can transfer its function of training beyond the certificate level to a county government through an agreement that those people can be admitted to other courses within the same institution, but then being oversighted by relevant officers of the national Government. We need to find a way of marring the two so that we do not waste the resources that come with establishment of structures for training.
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