24 Jul 2013 in Senate:
Hon. Senators, it is now time to interrupt the business of the Senate. This House is, therefore, adjourned until this afternoon, at 2.30 p.m. The Senate rose at 12.30 p.m. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate.
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17 Jul 2013 in Senate:
(Sen. (Prof.) Kindiki): Mr. Speaker, Sir, I beg to give notice of the following Motion:- THAT, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order No.175(3), the Senate approves the nomination by the Rules and Business Committee of Sen. Kennedy Mong’are Okong’o to replace Sen. Janet Ong’era in the Standing Committee on Agriculture, Land and Natural Resources. RELEASE OF FUNDS TO POLITICAL PARTIES
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17 Jul 2013 in Senate:
(Sen. (Prof.) Kindiki): Mr. Speaker, Sir, the Motion, whose notice I have just given, is listed on the Order Paper. That is why I am standing up.
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17 Jul 2013 in Senate:
(Sen. (Prof.) Kindiki): Mr. Speaker, Sir, I beg to move the following Motion:- THAT, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order No.175(3), the Senate approves the nomination by the Rules and Business Committee of Sen. Kennedy Mong’are Okong’o to replace Sen. Janet Ong’era in the Standing Committee on Agriculture, Land and Natural Resources. Mr. Speaker, Sir, from time to time, the House and political parties are entitled to re-look at the workload and responsibilities that every hon. Senator has. It is on that context that the request of the Minority to have this adjustment was granted by the Rules and ...
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17 Jul 2013 in Senate:
(Prof.) Kindiki: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I beg to move that the County Allocation of Revenue Bill (Senate Bill No.1 of 2013) be read a second time. The County Allocation of Revenue Bill of 2013 is the one that deals with the horizontal division of revenue among the counties. The brief history of this Bill is within the full knowledge of Members of this House. As Members know, the Senate of Kenya is in court concerning the predecessor Bill or the progenitor Bill which is the Division of Revenue Bill which is now an Act of Parliament. As I ...
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17 Jul 2013 in Senate:
(Sen. (Prof.) Kindiki): Thank Mr. Speaker, Sir. At the time when this Bill was published, the amount in question was Kshs198 billion. Members will recall that even the Kshs20 billion was a negotiated settlement. These figures have kept on changing since this Bill was first published. In any case, the Kshs210 billion is not something that can be varied. As I have said, it is the law and is what has been passed. I do not see how this is a theoretical Bill. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only. A certified version of ...
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17 Jul 2013 in Senate:
(Sen. (Prof.) Kindiki): Mr. Speaker, Sir, I am duty bound, because that is the law, to ensure that the necessary amendments are done. The correct figure is about Kshs198 billion plus Kshs20 billion which are conditional grants to the best of my recollection. However, in terms of making sure that whatever the law has provided for is what we are talking about, those are issues that we have no choice but to make sure that we comply with the actual figure. The challenge, as I have said, for this Senate is that as much as it is a bit difficult ...
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17 Jul 2013 in Senate:
(Sen. (Prof.) Kindiki): Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. As I have said, the figure is Kshs190 billion, plus Kshs20 billion in form of conditional grants, under Article 202 of the Constitution. That figure is in the public knowledge. It is part of the Division of Revenue Act, 2013. So, I do not think that there is any room for mischief by or from anybody. In any case, the particular issue of the figure appearing in this version of the Bill can be handled through an amendment. I think that anybody, including my brother, Sen.(Dr.) Machage, can bring an amendment at ...
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17 Jul 2013 in Senate:
(Sen. (Prof.) Kindiki): Mr. Speaker, Sir, I accept to be informed by Sen. Billow.
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17 Jul 2013 in Senate:
(Sen. (Prof.) Kindiki): Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. While the concerns raised by Sen.(Dr.) Khalwale and Sen. (Dr.)Machage are valid, I think that they have been ring-fenced against any mischief. At the Committee Stage, the figures will be done accordingly. What I do not understand – and I stand to be guided – is that I did not hear Sen.(Dr.) Khalwale say that we will pass the Bill in terms of scenarios and say: “If the court rules this way or that way.” That is scenario building, which is an academic exercise. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I beg that we move ...
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