19 Feb 2025 in Senate:
I said when they came. I said when they came, I know you do not know. When they came, M23 came to Nairobi, met our President, they launched themselves here. What did you expect President Kagame to do? What did you expect him to do? When information is coming out that all these groups are meeting around Nairobi, and we are not careful---
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19 Feb 2025 in Senate:
What question are you asking me?
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19 Feb 2025 in Senate:
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19 Feb 2025 in Senate:
My Chairperson of the Standing Committee on Health, what I said was this: Anytime when you have these groups that are fighting in the East African Region and one of them appears to be in Nairobi, what happens is that it creates a destabilization, which sometimes is imaginary and yet the expectation is just like South Sudan. When the first group that was against the Government came to Nairobi and met---
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19 Feb 2025 in Senate:
Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, what I said is that the M23 made contact and, indeed, the President of Kenya's responsibility was for him to start negotiating with them and the Rwandese Government. What I am saying is, those discussions as they started---
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19 Feb 2025 in Senate:
Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I do not know why you do not want me to talk. Let me make it easy for you, I withdraw and apologize for my majority. Can I proceed?
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19 Feb 2025 in Senate:
Let me say what I am saying, so that you do not waste my time. We, as a leadership, must understand that whatever that was happening is not removed from our reality. Just as you were planning to organize, so that Prime Minister Raila can then go for his election at the African Union, what do you do? You allow individuals to pick Besigye and they abduct him and take him to Uganda. Internationally, Sen. Cherarkey, you know that looks bad. At that moment when you were busy talking about South Africa, I know some of us may not understand ...
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19 Feb 2025 in Senate:
We then take that same narrative as we are having issues---
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