13 Mar 2012 in National Assembly:
Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, this is going to be the story of our lives and the story of the lives of counties. This is going to give Treasury so much power. It will also decide which county gets the first amount. Even if they say it will be done on a prorata basis, they are not even giving the time schedules so that they say, at this time, all the counties will receive the money. They are leaving it loose. So, it means it is at their discretion. When we have collected enough money; we are not saying all ...
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13 Mar 2012 in National Assembly:
Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, we have to be very careful how we formulate the law. This law is going to cause untold suffering to the people who are living in the counties. It is going to cause untold sufferings to the governments that we are going to set at the county level. I would urge the Minister, and I know his technocrats are listening to me; he must go back and give us what the Constitution intended. We want a direct charge on the Consolidated Fund. We do not want to be told that there are shortfalls; we have ...
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13 Mar 2012 in National Assembly:
Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, this is a very dangerous clause. I do not like its formulation. I am asking the Minister to look at it again. I am asking Members of Parliament, please, if you want your county to survive, go and read this clause. We are being short changed here, and you are going to be told this is a good law, let us pass it, and you will pass it with your eyes closed, and your counties will die. They will all be converted into subservient units of the Central Government. This is why we are saying ...
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13 Mar 2012 in National Assembly:
Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, we have had this problem with the CDF. How many times have we asked the Minister here? How many times have we asked Questions here to the Minister asking him: Where is the balance of the money? But because it is not a direct charge on Consolidated Fund of money that is being taken off, they play around with it. They use it to control. They use it to do their own things around. Let us be careful. I want to say it again, please, Members of Parliament, let us go and look at this ...
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13 Mar 2012 in National Assembly:
I want to say that the amount of money the Treasury projects is a very little. A minimum of 15 per cent must be kept away. We must not be told about schedules of collections. We must have that money remitted immediately to the counties.
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13 Mar 2012 in National Assembly:
Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, I would like to continue—
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13 Mar 2012 in National Assembly:
Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, that is not a point of order. First of all, I want you, people, to listen. When we say---
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13 Mar 2012 in National Assembly:
Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, I have touched the real thing and that is why the Minister must wake up.
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13 Mar 2012 in National Assembly:
I am asking Members, please, if they are listening to me wherever they are, to go and read this clause again, because this is the real thing. This is the language of Treasury. We all know that they will keep telling you, oh, Exchequer issues! Exchequer issues! We have not collected taxes, bla bla, bla, so you would wait.
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13 Mar 2012 in National Assembly:
Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, we are not going to move this counties in the direction we want if we allow this clause to go. We must put very strong provisions here. To collect Kshs105 billion is not a big thing for this Government. They have squandered so much money in different ways. So, Kshs105 billion is not an issue. If they say they cannot collect revenue on 1st July, let us wait. But by this month, one month after, let all the money come out. At any rate, there is a clear provision that any monies that have not ...
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