10 Jul 2019 in Senate:
Mr. Speaker, Sir, I beg to lay the following Paper on the Table of the Senate today, Wednesday 10th July 2019: Report of the Senate Sessional Committee on County Public Accounts and Investments on the Fiduciary Risk Report on audit issues by County Governments for the Financial Years 2012/13 to 2015/16;
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10 Jul 2019 in Senate:
Mr. Speaker, Sir, I beg to give notice of the following Motion-
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10 Jul 2019 in Senate:
THAT, the Senate adopts the Report of the Senate Sessional Committee on Public Accounts and Investments on the Fiduciary Risk Report on audit issues by County Governments for the Financial Years 2012/2013 to 2015/2016 laid on the Table of the Senate today, Wednesday, 10th July, 2019.
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3 Jul 2019 in Senate:
On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir.
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3 Jul 2019 in Senate:
Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, let us invoke the provisions of the Standing Orders to increase the time because of the tremendous interest that this matter has generated. I feel constrained when we want to convert ourselves to the level---
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3 Jul 2019 in Senate:
Is there no room for a review, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir?
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3 Jul 2019 in Senate:
Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I will wait for my turn.
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3 Jul 2019 in Senate:
Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. Let me associate myself with the sentiments that have been made by these great, wise men in this country. When the people of Kenya gave themselves this Constitution, and through Article 96, spelt out one of the roles of the Senate which is very important, to protect the interests of counties and their governments, they knew very well what they were doing. When any busybody anywhere wakes up and imagines that a Bill that touches on counties can be passed without passing through this House, it is a serious violation of this Constitution.
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3 Jul 2019 in Senate:
Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, some people require to be taken to class to understand some very basic ideas on how to interpret the document that is before us. I say this will all humility and a lot of respect because the definition of a money Bill is made in the Constitution. We all understand what it means. Some people do not know that when public monies are being set out so that we go to the level of determining how much goes to the counties, one of the key issues whose provisions have to be made is the national debt.
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3 Jul 2019 in Senate:
Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, our intervention and why we say that we must be concerned is because the National Assembly can easily overcommit this country. They can do this to the extent that by the time we are try to come up with a formula for dividing money that is supposed to go to counties, we will realise that there is no money, because the country is overcommitted and, hence, there will be no money to send to the counties. That is our concern. Therefore, when we say that we must take this through, it is after recognising that, that ...
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