25 Jul 2018 in Senate:
Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the context of my conservation debate is not just about the Mau Forest, but also Embobut and Mt. Elgon. This is because we can never achieve irrigation without conserving the water, in the first place, where we will do that irrigation. In fact, the Bill itself talks about the national Government having a responsibility for licensing, so that then they can regulate the use of water between the upper and lower riparian users.
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25 Jul 2018 in Senate:
Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I have not even finished. Do you want me to say that I saw a lot of irrigation in Russia?
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25 Jul 2018 in Senate:
The point I wanted to make is that as a representative of the people, just like my colleague, Sen. Seneta has spoken, Mau is an emotive issue, because it is important to the country. It is about conservation, land ownership and settlement. So, it is emotive. In that regard, Senators, like Sen. Seneta and all of us must listen to each other. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate.
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25 Jul 2018 in Senate:
Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I request that we vote for the Second Reading because in any case, it will not stop the amendments that Members have. However, before we go to the Committee of the Whole, we must go for the workshop to agree on the amendments that we require. This is an argument we have heard before. Maybe Members will agree that we vote on the Second Reading because right now, there is nothing we can do to the Bill. Before we go to the Committee of the Whole, we should come with all the amendments that we will ...
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25 Jul 2018 in Senate:
Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, it makes no difference. Even if we do not vote now, there is no difference because nothing will change in the Bill. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate.
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25 Jul 2018 in Senate:
Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I have no problem when this Bill is voted on. We can even postpone it. The issue I am trying to mention here is that it makes no difference. In terms of strategy, we can wait until the consultations have been done but practically speaking, it makes no difference. The only way is to kill a Bill when it does not capture what you wanted during the Committee of the Whole. During a consultation meeting, we will have many amendments and the Committee will still incorporate them and bring them to the Committee of the Whole. ...
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25 Jul 2018 in Senate:
Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I have limitation on what to request as per the Standing Orders.
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25 Jul 2018 in Senate:
If we have the numbers which I am not sure of.
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25 Jul 2018 in Senate:
Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, as a representative and leader of Sen. Moi from the majority side, I beg your indulgence that this Business be rescheduled for another date.
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