23 May 2014 in Senate:
(Sen. (Prof.) Kindiki): Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir.
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23 May 2014 in Senate:
On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir. Is it in order for Sen. Ong’era, even though she could have missed me for long, to try to infer that I was intimidating her by looking at her? How does intimidating look like?
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23 May 2014 in Senate:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. First of all, I would like to start by saying that I support the Motion. I would like to congratulate those whose names have been enlisted in this Motion to perform this every onerous, difficult and very honourable task. I had the privilege and honour to serve in the first Committee of this House that looked into the matter of Embu. This is not an easy task and as Sen. Khalwale said, we benefited immensely from the support of the Clerk’s Office and the legal teams who worked meticulously to ensure that this House assists ...
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23 May 2014 in Senate:
Mr. Speaker, Sir, I like giving examples about my mentor. If he disappears, that will be very serious. I was saying that for that reason, this House needs to pronounce itself properly on this matter. We were told that JM Kariuki disappeared and somebody else told the House that he was in Zambia having fun. However, he was found dead in Ngong. We were told that Ouko had travelled from somewhere in Koru to co-host a function in Gambia as a Minister for Foreign Affairs, however, his remains were found in Got Alila. We cannot allow a situation where a ...
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23 May 2014 in Senate:
On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir. For the record, I have never, ever bashed Members of County Assemblies. I have always given them, as the Chair of Devolution, advice so that any time they exercise a certain function, they ensure that it is not used for intimidation, blackmail, or so forth. However, I have never told them that it is wrong for them to use an oversight function to impeach any person who has violated the law. My responsibility as the Chair of Devolution Committee is to give advisory services to the county governments. We tell them, county ...
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23 May 2014 in Senate:
(Sen. (Prof.) Kindiki): Mr. Speaker, Sir, seeing the mood of the House, I beg to move.
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15 May 2014 in Senate:
(Sen. (Prof.) Kindiki): Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I beg to move that the Division of Revenue Bill, 2014, be read a Second Time. As the hon. Senators know, the Division of Revenue Bill is one of the most critical legislations that are enacted every year by both Houses of Parliament. According to Article 217 of the Constitution, every year, the National Assembly and the Senate must determine the amount of money that is allocated to counties as a precursor to the origination and conclusion of a second and even more important Bill, called the County Allocation of Revenue ...
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15 May 2014 in Senate:
(Sen. (Prof.) Kindiki): Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. With profound respect to the Senator for Kakamega County, Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, there is no provision in law that says that the national Treasury will cost and unbundle functions. By reading the Constitution and the spirit of the constitutional provisions that talk about resources being able to help both levels of government to deliver functions, it is assumed that somebody has to do so. That is number one. Number two, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the costing and unbundling of functions is not the only parameter or criteria that should inform the ...
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15 May 2014 in Senate:
(Sen. (Prof.) Kindiki): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I am being reminded by the Chairperson of the Committee on Finance, Commerce and Budget, that actually even budgets are estimates. So, there is nothing out of order in saying that these are estimates. All what we are saying is that we would want to be as certain as possible going forward. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, having said that, the first parameter that has been used is that of the national interest.
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15 May 2014 in Senate:
(Sen. (Prof.) Kindiki): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I have a lot of respect for the Senator for Machakos County. However, I think this afternoon, there is something that he is not getting from us yet we are extremely clear. I did not talk about what we are allocating to counties as being estimates. I said, what is thought to be the actual cost of delivering functions is estimated. This is because up to now, no scientific assessment has been done on the actual cost of delivering functions.
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