Kipchumba Murkomen

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• 17 Jul 2013 in Senate: (Prof.) Kindiki: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I beg to move that the County Allocation of Revenue Bill (Senate Bill No.1 of 2013) be read a second time. The County Allocation of Revenue Bill of 2013 is the one that deals with the horizontal division of revenue among the counties. The brief history of this Bill is within the full knowledge of Members of this House. As Members know, the Senate of Kenya is in court concerning the predecessor Bill or the progenitor Bill which is the Division of Revenue Bill which is now an Act of Parliament. As I ... view
• 17 Jul 2013 in Senate: (Sen. (Prof.) Kindiki): Thank Mr. Speaker, Sir. At the time when this Bill was published, the amount in question was Kshs198 billion. Members will recall that even the Kshs20 billion was a negotiated settlement. These figures have kept on changing since this Bill was first published. In any case, the Kshs210 billion is not something that can be varied. As I have said, it is the law and is what has been passed. I do not see how this is a theoretical Bill. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only. A certified version of ... view
• 17 Jul 2013 in Senate: (Sen. (Prof.) Kindiki): Mr. Speaker, Sir, I am duty bound, because that is the law, to ensure that the necessary amendments are done. The correct figure is about Kshs198 billion plus Kshs20 billion which are conditional grants to the best of my recollection. However, in terms of making sure that whatever the law has provided for is what we are talking about, those are issues that we have no choice but to make sure that we comply with the actual figure. The challenge, as I have said, for this Senate is that as much as it is a bit difficult ... view
• 17 Jul 2013 in Senate: (Sen. (Prof.) Kindiki): Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. As I have said, the figure is Kshs190 billion, plus Kshs20 billion in form of conditional grants, under Article 202 of the Constitution. That figure is in the public knowledge. It is part of the Division of Revenue Act, 2013. So, I do not think that there is any room for mischief by or from anybody. In any case, the particular issue of the figure appearing in this version of the Bill can be handled through an amendment. I think that anybody, including my brother, Sen.(Dr.) Machage, can bring an amendment at ... view
• 17 Jul 2013 in Senate: (Sen. (Prof.) Kindiki): Mr. Speaker, Sir, I accept to be informed by Sen. Billow. view
• 17 Jul 2013 in Senate: (Sen. (Prof.) Kindiki): Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. While the concerns raised by Sen.(Dr.) Khalwale and Sen. (Dr.)Machage are valid, I think that they have been ring-fenced against any mischief. At the Committee Stage, the figures will be done accordingly. What I do not understand – and I stand to be guided – is that I did not hear Sen.(Dr.) Khalwale say that we will pass the Bill in terms of scenarios and say: “If the court rules this way or that way.” That is scenario building, which is an academic exercise. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I beg that we move ... view
• 17 Jul 2013 in Senate: (Sen. (Prof.) Kindiki): Present, but also with an eye on the future, because you can win a battle this year and lose it forever. So, we are rather winning the long-term battle of saying, one, that this is the role of the Senate and when the Senate says something about this Bill, this is what happens. That is the way I understand it – I could be wrong. view
• 17 Jul 2013 in Senate: (Sen. (Prof.) Kindiki): Mr. Speaker, Sir, the position of the Leader is as I have said; that I believe that we should proceed with the Bill, with Kshs210 billion in mind, because that is the law at the moment. You cannot create your own law, because you expect the court to give you some ruling. Mr. Speaker, Sir, other than that contentious aspect of the figure, I think--- view
• 17 Jul 2013 in Senate: (Sen. (Prof.) Kindiki): Mr. Speaker, Sir, I will be happy to introduce the amendments as appropriate, but going by the tradition, which has been set by this House in the last few weeks, especially last week when I lost a battle on a different issue, I think that it is only appropriate that the amendments come through the Committee, unless there is any particular reason on this one, we cannot trust the Committees to deliver. It should not be for the Senate Majority Leader to sponsor this amendment, but, definitely, the Government fully supports its own commitments. There is no ... view
• 17 Jul 2013 in Senate: (Sen. (Prof.) Kindiki): Mr. Speaker, Sir, I confirm to Sen. Orengo and the House that I fully take responsibility to support this position and will ensure that, that is the position that will be taken. We will consult with my colleague, the Chair of Committee on Finance, Commerce and Economic Affairs and the entire Committee. I will take responsibility. Mr. Speaker, Sir, other than the contentious issue about figures, this Bill has been prepared in accordance with the procedures and parameters which are set out in the Constitution, which are:- 1. Provisions of Article 203 of the Constitution. 2. Revenue ... view